WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

[matthewjj]

Can anybody shed light on when the AC 11 grid tool will be available!!!

My team beta tested AC 11 and throughout the beta test the grid tool was available, albeit just as flawed as it was in 10. Then suddenly the tool was taken away from us when the final release came out. We were urged to used AC 11 on 'real' projects by graphisoft and so we did. We have real clients and we are working on a real $100m hotel and we need our grid tool back, asap.

*We have tried loading the RC1 grid tool but it doesn't get read by the final release.

[__archiben]

Joseph wrote:
By the way they do not group once they are placed either

have you got autogroup switched on? mine group . . .

~/archiben

[gkovacsp]

Joseph wrote:
But Grid Element dialog will not effect the placement of the grid itself. Only after placement of grid Grid Element dialog has to be used to edit them all. Is this the only way editing after the fact?

Joseph,
are you talking about the Grid System dialog?
If so, then you can set the properties of the grid elements (including text) the following way:
Grid System Settings dialog --> Grid Elements Panel --> Push the Grid Element settings button --> This pops up the Grid element settings dialog, where you can do it.

regards,
g

[gkovacsp]

~/archiben wrote:
...yet another example of arse-about-face graphisoft logic...

Thank you Ben.
I hope my previous post helps you to find the settings you miss.

Gabor

[gkovacsp]

Laura wrote:
Yes, I know this -- and I've adjusted my WE accordingly -- the "Grid System" menu is nowhere to be found.

The Grid System menu is now replaced with one Grid System command - it can do all what the old menu could.

[gkovacsp]

Joseph wrote:
By the way they do not group once they are placed either

Grouping is tied to the status of the general Autogroup flag. (Edit menu --> Grouping --> Autogroup)

Regards,
Gabor

[Laura Yanoviak]

~/archiben wrote:
another thought: the 'grid system' and the 'structural grid' add-ons used to be incompatible: you could run one or the other but not both together. is that the problem?

Naw -- removing the 'structural grid' add-on is the first thing I did.

~/archiben wrote:
laura - what if, in your WE command settings, you sort the commands "By Theme"? then open the "Add-ons" theme and you should see the grid system commands within its own folder there . . . ?

...and there it is... thanks (again) ben...

[Anonymous]

gkovacsp wrote:

Joseph wrote:

But Grid Element dialog will not effect the placement of the grid itself. Only after placement of grid Grid Element dialog has to be used to edit them all. Is this the only way editing after the fact?

Joseph,
are you talking about the Grid System dialog?
If so, then you can set the properties of the grid elements (including text) the following way:
Grid System Settings dialog --> Grid Elements Panel --> Push the Grid Element settings button --> This pops up the Grid element settings dialog, where you can do it.

regards,
g

Mr. G thank you very much and very not to have paid attention to THE button and Auto Group issue. Apologize again and the tool works good now. Just as a note the Grid line type does not stay set in the 1st two left options (broken lines)!
Thanks a Mil.,
Joseph

[__archiben]

gkovacsp wrote:

~/archiben wrote:
...yet another example of arse-about-face graphisoft logic...

Thank you Ben.

you're welcome!

I hope my previous post helps you to find the settings you miss.

it did - many thanks. now if we could talk a little about consistency: such things as typical dialogue box panels, and naming conventions ("Floor Plan & Section", "Model"), etc . . . ? maybe you weren't aware that's what the rest of the application was doing?

cheers!
ben

[gkovacsp]

~/archiben wrote:
... now if we could talk a little about consistency: such things as typical dialogue box panels, and naming conventions ("Floor Plan & Section", "Model"), etc . . . ? maybe you weren't aware that's what the rest of the application was doing?

Grid tool is very special. While other elements have one attribute set for all sections and elevations Grid Tool allows you to customize: create a different look for the Grid Element on every section/elevation.

If we created a common Floor plan and Section panel, then we should have listed similar controls twice on that panel and add extra description to them to differentiate which belongs to where. Meanwhile the section related controls would be customizable for every section, while the floor plan related controls would affect the element placed on the floor plan. Users would complain about arse face logic of ours.

Since the Grid Tool is not a model element, calling the 3D related panel to Model would be confusing as well, because in other elements model related parameters have effect on how the elements look on S/E as well. But not for Grid Tool, because here the model clearly refers to the appearance in 3D window.

Please post your constructive suggestions here so we can make this add-on even better in the future.

Gabor

[gkovacsp]

Joseph wrote:
Just as a note the Grid line type does not stay set in the 1st two left options (broken lines)!

Thanks for the report, I added it to our bug tracking system.
Gabor