profile editor

[Anonymous]

Can someone give me some advice about how to use this tool? Is it this the best way to create unusual profiles? where can I found more info, tutorials and so? I've found some info in the Frank Lloyd Wright's Massaro House tutorial but is wasn't really useful.
thanks alot

[Anonymous]

The trim on the doors is not at the outside of the frame, but at the point it hits the round of the log.

[Karl Ottenstein]

Hi Brandon,

Good for you for giving profiles logs a shot! I can confirm that there is some kind of bug in doors, or at least D1 Entrance 11.

I'll be attaching a bunch of screenshots in consecutive posts to show everyone what is happening.

First, here's a screenshot of one profile with the opening ref lines at the outside of the logs entirely. (The fills I used were to show chinking and insulation between 12" logs BTW.)

[Karl Ottenstein]

2. Here's a screeenshot with the opening lines inset into the wall to the face of the chinking...

[Karl Ottenstein]

3. Here's a W1 Casement 11 and D1 Entrance 11 set for 'solid wall' inserted in one of each wall. This is an exterior view - the wall with inset opening lines is in the foreground...

[Karl Ottenstein]

4. And here's an interior view. (The wall with opening ref lines inset to chinking is in the distance.)

Notice how the window frame, casing, sill and stool only show up correctly for the inset opening line version. The window doesn't recognize the thickness of the wall in the first case.

The door is insanely bad.

I should mention that I copied the wall and made it an ordinary 12" solid wall. Window/door look fine there.

In all three walls (ordinary solid, log with opening on outside curve, and log with opening at chinking), the 2D symbols look fine for window and door. This is entirely a 3D bug...which I'll report...

Bummer,
Karl

[Anonymous]

What I'm looking to do is have the frame of the door the width of the logs stacks, 8" for example. Then the trim would sit over top of the frame. This lets the trim sit outside of the logs.

[Karl Ottenstein]

PS Here's a sectional view. Granted it isn't 'right', since I don't really know anything about log construction, but it gives others an example of what a (complex) profiled wall can do to add additional details to the model, in this case adding more than shows up in the simple archicad wall tool 'log' walls. Diameters could be varied, etc to give a better effect; I just multiplied my fills in the profile editor to get this quickly for testing purposes.

Cheers,
Karl

[Karl Ottenstein]

Brandon wrote:
What I'm looking to do is have the frame of the door the width of the logs stacks, 8" for example. Then the trim would sit over top of the frame. This lets the trim sit outside of the logs.

Aha. I've seen other log guys bevel the logs at door/window openings, so I misunderstood.

Setting the frame depth only deepens the frame ... leaving the casing inside the wall. The casing location, AFAIK, is determined automatically from what ArchiCAD reads as the wall thickness - total thickness for 'solid' walls, and thickness less certain veneers for the other types (brick, siding, etc).

Of course, neither what I tried, nor what you want, seems to work, as the width of the wall is not being picked up properly for some reason....

Karl