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2 weeks ago
Hi all,
I am excited to propose the addition of a new permanent discussion section titled "CEO's Corner: Insight & Interaction." This space is designed to bridge the gap between our community of BIM software users and the software developer's executive leadership, particularly inviting the CEO to engage directly with our discussions.
Purpose and Benefits:
Outcome:
This section aims to enrich our forum by making it more interactive and influential, strengthening the partnership between users and the software's leadership team.
I hope this initiative garners your support and becomes a valued part of our community!
Tuesday
oh, and also BIG from Denmark is using Revit now.
Tuesday
On the conversation, Daniel says many users don´t pay for the SSA, and that is a problem for Graphisoft. The solution is then to may everyone pay a pricier subscription? It seems those who didn´t pay for the SSA would stay the same, as they didn´t think the updates were worth it anyway. And many of SSA payers may not want to triple o more their payment and lose control of the software completely, so they will loose these income too 🤔
I suppose they have made all kind of studies that tell them that GS will earn more money with the change, but around me what I see it´s demoralized users thinking how to jump ship in a few years time... As Vectoworks and Allplan work this way too now, Nemetschek must be still making money, so, in their view, it will probably eventually make sense to GS to drop all the dead weight of we old perpetual users.
Still seeing this as a very risky move.
yesterday
This friendly podcast did not ask something I would like to hear, which is what are the long term objectives of GS/Nemetschek when it comes to the subscribers intellectual property, as it relates to the current AI AEC learning models they are training, and the specific future use of AI AEC design delivery systems they intend to deploy.
yesterday - last edited yesterday
The only info I can give you regarding this is that the Nemetschek Group recently announced its vision of ethical AI:
https://www.nemetschek.com/en/news-media/artificial-intelligence-layer
"Nemetschek’s vision for ethical and trustworthy AI focuses on transparency, data privacy, and reliability. AI decisions should be understandable to users, with clear explanations provided. Stringent data security measures are in place, including user consent and anonymization where possible. Before deployment, AI models will undergo rigorous testing and validation, with human oversight in critical areas. Clear accountability needs to be established within the organization. Additionally, AI is used to promote sustainability and the well-being of our society as well as to help its users adjust to new realities, and therefore adapt to evolving job roles and expectations."
yesterday
When I read "including user consent.... where possible", alarm bells sound off. We are usually required to sign a user agreement, I suspect that includes to all sorts of cleverly worded consent to data manipulation we are not understanding.
Let us not be naive, as we all know the architectural design profession- to a large extent-is one of the professions that will largely be replaced by AI systems. What I am fast becoming aware of, is that the axe that will cut us off is in the hands of our software of choice. Of course written agreements will not say it, he/they/GS/Nemetschek need us to feed their AI models until they can largely replace many of us. The subscription model is the mechanism by which we are forcefully milked, while our intellectual property stored in their cloud servers is being fed to the machine that will replace us. Unless we creatively device legal means to protect our best interests, AEC practitioners will be led as lambs to the AI slaughterhouse (please forgive the crudeness of the parallelism).
yesterday
@Jp1138 "On the conversation, Daniel says many users don´t pay for the SSA, and that is a problem for Graphisoft"
I don't buy the CEO's SSA argument. The upgrade avoidance strategy has long been dealt with by GS. Those who bought the software and did not upgrade yearly, progressively lost the value of their investment. Faced with obsolescence, there were forced to pay hefty penalties for skipping upgrades. The year over year advances in operating systems and hardware requirements have made it all but impossible for anyone to be too many years behind without the software being rendered un usable. So no, I don't buy that smoke screen of an argument.
In his recent podcast interview, the current CEO clearly states he has been a successful agent of change at his previous job and that he was hired to implement the same business strategy at GS. He mentions converting perpetual license holders by forcing them into the subscription based model that will ultimately only benefit the corporate interests of the AI revolution.
Let us remember it is we, the AEC professionals who contributed to financial and intellectual advance of the AEC software development year after year for decades. Yet we are the ones now being used as fuel for the Human-run-AEC industry transition into the nascent AI-run-AEC industry.
New generations of AEC professionals will deal with modernity as they may. I know change is inevitable, however, it is only fair that long time SSA perpetual license owners who faithfully contributed to the current success of ArchiCAD for years, sometimes for decades, be respected and honored as we do with our war veterans, and not just fed to the corporate owned AI machine.
10 hours ago
AI = is just artificial algorithmic plagiarism that creates presumptive solutions. Really AI is not capable of human intelligence and never will be because it’s the human who creates the algorithms for machine learning. Architects will never be fully replaced by AI its only those who want to boast that their building was produced by AI that will use it. It probably will become a FAD for a while and that’s about it.
CAD software is a form of AI but it needs a human brain to drive it just like AI does. Architects are all still here using CAD software and paying money for it to develop because it is inherently dumb. We all could design buildings with our hands and pens we didn’t really need machines. The amount of time and resources we waste on having machines ready and up to date could have been spent with our hand drawings.
I am not paying out subscriptions to feed the development of AI or the spying on us humans to help machine learning. Don’t farm out your intelligence to a machine to make design decisions for you. Use the machine to show what you have come up with. If the machine gives you a design solution, whose brains did it pick to come up with that solution ??? We learn by seeing things that we like but in the end every building or house will have its own unique design from the input of the Architect, Interior Designer and the clients. That is if we can afford to design our own home.
AI may have to face law suits in the future for plagiarism of ideas from us humans. Just another FAD to me.