Can info from Objects / Fills draw on a worksheet be scheduled?

[Patrick Hayes]

Hi all,

I was just wanting to see if anyone had any bright ideas on how to audit elements draw on a Worksheet (or any "workspace" outside of the storey structure really. Schedules seem to only be able to find elements placed in the storey structure of the file.

I haven't dipped into Lists so I'm hoping there may be a solution there. 

What we are wanting to do is just a general sweep of our template details to check what library parts are in use and ensure correct fills have been used etc on our worksheets. 

Thanks!

Patrick

[Barry Kelly · Accepted solution]

The old 'List Scheme' can look for fills in elevations and worksheets.

It is so long ago that I used it, that I can't remember how it was all set up.

I can say it does still work, but it is very old and hasn't been supported for some number of years.

New tools like the stairs, rails, openings aren't included.

I am not sure about the updated curtain walls (although I think they are OK), beams and columns.

But fills and objects should work fine still.

I wouldn't be surprised though if this functionality is removed in future versions just to clean up the program.

But that is pure speculation on my part.

Barry.

[Patrick Hayes]

Thanks Barry,

I have never dipped into lists but always assumed they were a potential way to look under the bonnet of a file. 

I'm getting some kind of BIMcloud library issue by the looks of things which is stopping me creating a new List Scheme, might have to do a bit more reading into how it's setup.

Anyway thanks for pointing me in that direction.

Cheers,

Patrick

 

[Barry Kelly]

The lists were pre-BIMcloud.

The schemes need to be editable so I guess they can't be in the BIMcloud library.

They would need to be in an office library that all users have access to (as mine are - I don't use BIMcloud).

Any amendments made are made to those files in the office library, so all users get the changes with a library re-load.

They could be saved in the Embedded library, but they would only be good for that one file.

Barry.

[Patrick Hayes]

In that case I think you're right about lists being on a cull list somewhere in Graphisoft HQ....

[gdford]

You can do exactly what you what to do if you stop using worksheets and start using a series of stories below the project foundation. All you have to do is copy and paste and you can immediately start using schedules to check the work. If you stop using fills and start using zero thickness morphs you will have even more scheduling options because with morphs you can add custom properties and classifications which give you the ability of drill down to a greater level of detail without being trapped with only the fill name and fill ID. If you don't really want this to exist in every model then you can save it out as a hotlike file and then attach it to any project as needed. There is no BIM in worksheets. They are only good for dumb data. I agree it would be sweet if there was a way to focus a schedule to a specific worksheet, but it want happen in our lifetime.

[TaniavH]

We needed to do this today, and I have just tested it (albeit only finding this thread 4 years later) and it does work, but it's a little clunky.

• duplicate an existing element list scheme and name it immediately (it will not let you rename it afterwards - dumb)
• select fills and worksheets per Barry's image above
• by default it wants to use a list template object, but I have yet to find that - so you can use a "Text List"
• also by default it wants to combine fills with the same property so you want to select items in separate rows
• it produces a basic list
  
  

I'll add to this once I find the list graphic template...it would be nice to have the ability to format this a little...

[TaniavH]

ok looks like the LISTSET.TXT file  template has not been around for many versions, but if all you want it the data, I guess you could pretty it up in excel or something...