Comprehensive Electrical ISS and custom symbols...

[Andy Thomson]

Here at Altius we are just finding a need to have a faster, smarter way of doing electrical schedules. We are considering some kind of meta-part/object that can take whatever name/polygon boundary we need, where the object ID can read from the centre of the object, and be called in the ISS.

I have all the standard NCS, and Cadimage symbols, but they are mere 'dumb' symbols, or not graphically representative of conventions in the US and Canada. Can anyone recommend an approach, object, or scheduling methodology?

This is primarily for large, high-end residential, but also hi-rise residential work....


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[__archiben]

andyro wrote:
... and Cadimage symbols, but they are mere 'dumb' symbols, or not graphically representative of conventions in the US and Canada.

are you looking at the cadimage rapid details 3 elements? there are two objects: one containing all electrical parts that allows symbol creation and editing, the other is a schedule element that reads all of the various placed symbols in the above....

i haven't played with it much, but it looks as though you could make your own symbol variants . . . or indeed 'random things'

any use?
ben

[Anonymous]

andyro wrote:
Here at Altius we are just finding a need to have a faster, smarter way of doing electrical schedules. We are considering some kind of meta-part/object that can take whatever name/polygon boundary we need, where the object ID can read from the centre of the object, and be called in the ISS.

I have all the standard NCS, and Cadimage symbols, but they are mere 'dumb' symbols, or not graphically representative of conventions in the US and Canada. Can anyone recommend an approach, object, or scheduling methodology?

This is primarily for large, high-end residential, but also hi-rise residential work....

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I'm not sure I understand what you are looking for. The polygon meta-tool sounds like a zone. Is the idea to schedule the electrical bits in each room? You should be able to do this with zones; maybe even with the dumb parts you already have. I've done some work on this in the past and may be able to help if I have a clearer idea of what you are after.

[__archiben]

symbol setup and variants -->

[__archiben]

and the schedule -->

[TomWaltz]

I would think you would need to make most of these parameters of the objects and the label seen in plan would be almost incidental, since you cannot schedule the label itself.... unless I'm misunderstanding you.

[Andy Thomson]

I will post the key and a sample ISS tomorrow to give a sense of what we are trying to develop. The object(s) placed to indicate various fixtures need only be a graphic representation with an ID.

I have seen the rapid detailer object and schedule, but it is not especially helpful for us unfortunately....I will also send a screenshot of the absolutely crazy 1950's playboy-mansion-type building we are renovating, such that we need such a workflow. I have never seen so many switches in my life.

It does look like your cadimage random thing is an upgrade of the one I have, will need to download and take a look - but are you actually using it??

[LiHigh]

Andy,

If I understand u Correctly, a simple GDL obj using "FRAGMENT2" & pre-defined device name would do the job.....

[Andy Thomson]

This is what we want the object to be able to do....basically, be a multifunctional, single object. We will do a separate ISS for switches, lights and other stuff (speakers, HRV, etc) The screenshot is merely a representation of the different states of the same object.

The names/ID, ie. 'XENON' are just simply typed into the ID field in the infobox, switches are simply typed in as $$$ (for three gang) in the same ID field. In this case, '$$$$$$18' refers to a particular switch in the schedule, 18, which may be an additional field, just custom text called 'model' or something

[Anonymous]

I think you would be better off with a few simple parts rather than a single all purpose one. I have always found that this saves both in the writing of the parts and in the using of them. It seems that what you want is fairly easily accomplished.