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Quantity and Cost estimation from Archicad

Narendra
Booster

Dear All,

Quantity and Cost estimation from ArchiCAD (Compared with Cigraph’ s Archiquant add-on and Vicco Office).

I do not know estimation practices fellow ArchiCAD users are using. But I, in our country expect quantity and cost estimates of components required in elements and objects (walls, beams, etcetera along with GDL Objects). The reason is rates of components vary with elements at various locations.

I would expect volume of wood, number of hardware pieces, area of glass and number of carpenters along with respective costs when estimating a wooden door. (* “Cigraph’ s Archiquant” add-on can do this)

I have tried to search this solution to my problem of detailed component level cost estimation for more than one and half decade from Graphisoft, user-forums, my software dealers, and many others.

This is about finding quantity and cost estimation through ArchiCAD, without any success.

Cigraph and its CEO Istvan Toth gave me some relief for what I had wanted. However, Cigraph has collapsed and hence I am back to the square one.

“ArchiCAD calculation module” of ArchiCAD has not changed for one and half decade and I do not think any practice depends on it for its failure to calculate from all the properties like the width height volumes surfaces parameters in elements and gdl objects. The report format of the same is worst, and no one can program it to a desired format.

The question remains if there is any solution to detailed cost estimation which will give quantity and cost estimates of components from the ArchiCAD model.

In India this is very much required.

In India we grossly depend on “schedule of rates” prepared by government departments, and they are a good database and that they are backed by analysis of component quantities of the listed items of buildings.

Many software companies in India and abroad have created software that link building elements like walls, beams columns to the database items of the district schedule of rates from Revit. But it is sad that no one has developed such linking which Cigraph provided.

Now with the end of Cigraph, future of above-described estimation in detail from ArchiCAD faces a dead wall.

Someone from Graphisoft -Hong Kong office suggested me a software but that to had linking to Autodesk products only.

I remember Graphisoft had prepared a 6D estimation module sometime in 2006 which I presume was handed over to Vicco. Does it work with ArchiCAD in the original way? But I presume it is extremely expensive and hence un-affordable to small practices like ours. What is opinion of the fellow architects?

In short, Will someone guide me so that I can generate detailed quantity and cost estimates either from ArchiCAD or any other third-party software makers who can link data of ArchiCAD?

Architect Narendra Suryavanshi-ArchiCAD User, Designer and Owner

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On an element basis, favourites saved include all the cost information. So you can have a "price menu" of elements!!!.

When you copy an element the cost info stays the same.

There is also a function of picking up and injecting costs between identical elements.

For the moment everything works with elements. You cannot set a link between costs and materials because the same material may be used in different elements with different type of quantity calculation so this might cause conflicts.

For the moment the functionality is absolutely optimized, fast and accurate. Give it a try.

 

 

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.

Good morning everyone, as promised we have just published the website in English https://bimkit.it/en/ (German coming soon).

Ahmed_K
Mentor

And what about fra ?

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3080 10 GB
Archicad 27
Windows 11 professional
https://www.behance.net/Nuance-Architects

Good morning everyone, as previously mentioned, the website is now available in Italian and German ( www.bimkit.it ) We are translating the videos, which will be online soon. With regard to the French language and other European languages, we are waiting to meet the distributors of each individual country in order to set up the commercial policies. If you are interested in discussing, we will be attending the IGNITE conference in Budapest.

 

Hi @Federico Lenarduzzi, are you also considering translating the videos into English as well ?

AC8.1 - AC28 ARM AUS + CI Tools
Apple Mac Studio M1 Max Chip 10C CPU
24C GPU 7.8TF 32GB RAM OS Sequoia.
Certificate IV in Architectural & Building
Technology, (Estimation & Administration).

Hi, from the previous post: "We are translating the videos, which will be online soon"

 

There is a video in English from the previous Archiquant plus version from Cigraph.

The logic is exactly the same. The UI of BIMKIT obviously has been improved and other functionality have been optimized from Fermat.

 

But the approach of cost estimation and quantity scheduling is the same, so you can take an idea.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYv6O6LZiTg&t=618s

 

In case you want help with BKQuant I can be available.

Botonis Botonakis
Civil Engineer, Enviromental Design MSc., BIM Manager for BS ArhitectsVR
Company or personal website
Archicad 27. Windows 11. Intel Xeon 2699x2,64 GB RAM, Nvidia 3080Ti. 2 Monitors.

Hi @Botonis, thank you for that link and being available to help out. I am retired from QS&E these days but others may need your assistance. I personally would use Chief Architect if I needed to do QS&E for residential homes that are not too complex because it does automatic timber framing and quantities. I have a perpetual license for Chief Architect but I prefer to use Archicad for Architectural Design and Drafting. Thanks again.

AC8.1 - AC28 ARM AUS + CI Tools
Apple Mac Studio M1 Max Chip 10C CPU
24C GPU 7.8TF 32GB RAM OS Sequoia.
Certificate IV in Architectural & Building
Technology, (Estimation & Administration).
Ahmed_K
Mentor

Hello guys, our contribution to the cost estation process is here !! 

 

Please check this post in the community and discover our new web app COSTWAVES ! 

 

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/General-discussions/COSTWAVES-Cost-estimation-doesn-t-have-to-be... 

 

Thanks !

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3080 10 GB
Archicad 27
Windows 11 professional
https://www.behance.net/Nuance-Architects