How can I save a movie to DVD

[#1]

I am testing some of animations with artlantis, already I did a movie
but now I have some doubts

The file size of AC 8,1 is 2,4 MB the file in artlantis 4,5
is 59,9 MB

1. The file of .mov was 1.62GB in format (quicktime
compressed) size 768 576 xs the PAL 25 photograms by seg. with
duration of 40 seconds.

2. Then I tested another in format (quicktime compressed) size
320 200 xs VGA 25 photograms by seg. with duration of 30 seconds. the
file .mov was 182 MB

Then I change some textures that you could be larger in size
and saving them with smaller KB

Is normal the size of the file for .mov?

The other doubt that I have is if a file .mov I can save it in a DVD,
and send it to my client and he can see it in any DVD?

the program iDVD has this option?
does anybody knows how to make it?

Thanks in Advance
David

[Aussie John]

Movies chew up an enormous amount of disk space but you should be able to get the movie compressed and onto a CD if it is only 40 seconds long. Its been a while since i have done any movie work so have forgotten some detail so dont take my figures as exact...

I can edit a DV in Final cut pro of about 10 mins with 2 Gb so something is going seriously wrong with your compression to end up 1ith 1.6Gb for 40 secs. Proper Compression will bring that down significantly. You could try the animation compression algorithm as that seems to be quite effective.

To really do compression well you need good software like "Cleaner"

As you will have noticed that the screen size will make a proportioned difference to the end file size but assuming 600x400 pixel size the file should be about 100 MB give or take.


As to your question of whether copying to a DVD will allow it to be played on a DVD player the answer is yes. Use a program like iDVD to create it other wise it will only be playable on the computer.

I might be wrong here but I dont think the amount of rendered detail will have any effect on the compressed movie size

[ricki-fritz]

David wrote:
I am testing some of animations with artlantis, already I did a movie but now I have some doubts

1. The file of .mov was 1.62GB in format (quicktime
compressed) size 768 576 xs the PAL 25 photograms by seg. with
duration of 40 seconds.

2. Then I tested another in format (quicktime compressed) size
320 200 xs VGA 25 photograms by seg. with duration of 30 seconds. the
file .mov was 182 MB

If you used the same (quicktime) compressor, the main thing that would reduce your file size is the frame (image) size.

You should be able to choose which compressor Quicktime uses to compress the file. Sorenson Video 3 is usually quite good in terms of file size/image quality.

David wrote:

Then I change some textures that you could be larger in size
and saving them with smaller KB

If you mean the textures that you are using in Artlantis for your materials, then this will not affect your rendered images/movie file size.

David wrote:

Is normal the size of the file for .mov?

The other doubt that I have is if a file .mov I can save it in a DVD,
and send it to my client and he can see it in any DVD?

the program iDVD has this option?
does anybody knows how to make it?

Not too sure about iDVD, but if it imports your quicktime*.mov files OK, then I assume iDVD will convert it to DVD format (VOB file, I think?) when you burn the DVD? Have you tried to import the files you have already made?

Ricki

[stefan]

DVD files are MPEG2 format only.

I guess iMovie can import any Quicktime-supported video file and do the editing and then export into a suitable MPEG2-file that you can use in iDVD to make a DVD.

But I don't have a Mac so I'm only guessing.

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On the PC I do this:

If I can, I render to PAL format. If not, I just hope my video software can do the magic for me (it can, but a 320x240-movie cannot be crystal sharp in 720x576).
I collect every movie and sound and image and stuff I need in Vegas Movie Studio and do the editing (but any capable video editor should be able to do the basics).

When I want to go back to my miniDV-camera, I export to DV-files:
video: 25 MBits/s, audio: 1000~1500 kbits/s - 216 MB/minute. This is good for editing, since it contains (almost) no visible compression.

When I want to export to DVD (at least to hard-disk, since I don't have a DVD-writer, but that's not the point): PAL = 720x576, MPEG2 (3000~9000 kbits/s), audio: different options. In total about 30-70 MB/minute.
I export to MPEG2. This are large files, but not impossible huge.

MPEG2-files are compressed so avoid when you still need to edit them.

More info:
www.videohelp.com

[Anonymous]

Didn't we cover this ground before?

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=17282&highlight=video#17282

[Karl Ottenstein]

ricki_faris wrote:

David wrote:

Then I change some textures that you could be larger in size
and saving them with smaller KB

If you mean the textures that you are using in Artlantis for your materials, then this will not affect your rendered images/movie file size.

Maybe I have misunderstood how animation compression works, but I thought the answer to this would be 'yes' - if the textures change, but not if the texture files are merely compressed better. I thought that with animation compression, areas of consecutive frames are examined and if an area has not changed from one frame to the next, it is encoded so as to not be stored in the subsequent frame(s).

If this is the case, then if a wall is white in one case, and has striped wallpaper in another, then the white wall animation should compress better (depending on lighting effects) as you walk past it ... while the areas of the striped wall can have much less compressionl because of the 'moving' stripes.

Sounds like David is using the same texture, just a differently compressed version of it ... which shouldn't have any effect.

All some dim memory of something I read a long time ago... is this wrong?

Karl

[Edited: had said "Ricki" where I meant "David"]

[ricki-fritz]

Karl wrote:

ricki_faris wrote:

David wrote:

Then I change some textures that you could be larger in size
and saving them with smaller KB

If you mean the textures that you are using in Artlantis for your materials, then this will not affect your rendered images/movie file size.

If this is the case, then if a wall is white in one case, and has striped wallpaper in another, then the white wall animation should compress better (depending on lighting effects) as you walk past it ... while the areas of the striped wall can have much less compressionl because of the 'moving' stripes.

Karl

In the example you give, you are correct - the movie/image files will be smaller with a white wall, than one with different coloured stripes (less number of colours & less change per frame, etc.)

However, I was assuming that David was not actually completely changing the textures he was using in Artlantis, simply reducing their file size (either by increasing the compression or reducing the actual pixel size - say from a 512 x 512 pixel image to a 256 x 256 pixel image).

And yes, there are other topics here that cover tips/suggestions about video compilation, editing, etc. Use the Search ;o)

Ricki

[Anonymous]

Yesterday I made a small presentation for a client, I burnt it to DVD. This was the first effort that I have made with the new G5. I own a WideScreen TV and I knew the client did also. Therefore I wanted to produce the highest quality animation for this 16:9 format. Here is the method I used in Cinema 4D.

To render the popular and higher quality anamorphic widescreen image, use the following settings:

Resolution - PAL D1 or NTSC D1 - 720 x 486

Film Format - Automatic

Pixel - 1.42:1

Export to tiff sequential frames

Import Sequence to QT pro --> export as ANIMATION format

Import into iMOVIE - EDIT --> Click Share --> Launch iDVD

Set up your Menu structure --> Click Burn

Done. Now when the DVD is played it will be Anamorphic


An anamorphic image squashes the picture sideways so everything looks very slim and tall. When this is played back on a Widescreen set, the image is stretched sideways again to compensate, thus giving a wide image picture without any distortion. Because the whole frame is used, the final image will be much crisper and of a higher quality than a letterbox. This is basically the quality used at the studios, ever wonder why Shreik looks so crisp on the TV?

Need Final Cut Pro and DVD STudio Pro to do Widescreen? Nope, those programs just make the work environment (editing and preview) look normal and not squishy. Same resolution.

Great Widescreen info:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/index.html

Widescreen video CAM info:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/t100848.html

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And for Super High Quality
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If you are thinking HDTV, well there is no way to produce a DVD that has that resolution, but you can use a Roku Unit to display HDTV images - 1920 x 1080. They can be shown as slide shows with transitions and music.

http://www.rokulabs.com

http://www.epicware.com/hd1000/

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Or finally
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High Def images, stills - That you can zoom and pan

http://lqgraphics.com/software/phototomovie.php



The Mac Rocks!

[stefan]

Burginger wrote:
[...]
The Mac Rocks!

The last sentence is a bit biased... Whatever you told is perfectly possible on a PC as well.

But good info nonetheless.

[Eduardo Rolon]

The last sentence is a bit biased... Whatever you told is perfectly possible on a PC as well.

...But the programs (iMovie,iDVD,Garageband) come free with any mac and if you need to buy them they are only $49.00US