!Restored: Cinema 4D CE 6

[Karl Ottenstein]

Ola wrote:
I purchased Cinema 4D 8.2 and was wondering what the best way to export from Archicad and workflow. How does the rendering time vs result compare to Artlantis. Just purchased Piranesi also, I believe you can create a Epix file directly in C4D now

thanks

Lots of new toys! 😉

I only have C4D XL 7 - so AFAIK, there I have to use 3DS and Vedute to go into Piranesi. Nice if 8.2 allows it directly.

3DS format works well from AC to C4D. See various notes and comments in the archives at:

http://www.escribe.com/software/archicadtalk/

and there are also some good comments at:

http://www.fred-speaks.com/phpBB2/index.php

Some of those guys will hopefully re-post their comments here with some nice screenshots of the parameter settings dialogs (hint, hint).

As for speed, comparing C4D and Artlantis is difficult because C4D can do so much more than Artlantis, particularly as far as lighting goes...if you have the "Advanced Render" module (or the XL package). For comparable quality on a fast computer, I don't know that you'd see the difference. With a dual processor, C4D wins since Artlantis won't use the other processor. As soon as you use a radiosity solution, C4D will start to slow down (the race depends on your parameters and number of processors - or even network rendering, and option there and not with Artlantis) - but the results will astound you compared to Artlantis 'global illumination'.

[For example: if the C4D 8.2 CD contains some of the same sample scenes as XL7... look for a folder called 'Radiosity-LIght'. There's a JPG there ("Light") that is a wonderful demonstration of lighting effects that C4D can do and Artlantis cannot even come close to. Load the sample scene file in C4D and render it as a sample of how long such a thing takes on your computer. Not bad at all on mine. I've attached a cropped section of that image for others to see here ... image copyright Maxon Computer I should imagine.]

Including human time, Artlantis is a no-brainer IMHO - wins hands down for quick renderings.

Even if you cannot create the EPix file in C4D ... you can create the file in AC or Artlantis, then render the (same sized) image in C4D and finally import that image as the new Save RGB channel in Piranesi. Mix and match.

Have fun!

Karl

[Anonymous]

ok.... I found what was the prob... thanx anyway


cy all

[Anonymous]

Would someone please post another issue within this terrific thread. That last post left it with a non-visual dead end.

With 1964 views this thread is still behind Piranesi at 2135 but still ahead of Archilumos at 1491 (3/25/04)

Michael Rensing where are you!?!?

Thanx

Mark

[Anonymous]

I have found that while using the eXchange plug in, it asks for a conversion value.

Working in Foot values it works very good, perhaps not exact, to use the value 3.25.

Now a 20 ft cube in C4D matches the 20 cube built in ArchiCAD and the scale factor helps all other measurements, lights, falloff, etc.

DJ one time corrected this value to higher precision, but I forget what he figured out.

Mark

[Dwight]

CONVERTING FEET TO METRES IS 3.281

[Djordje]

Dwight wrote:
CONVERTING FEET TO METRES IS 3.281

1/.305=3.2786

Set ArchiCAD units to feet, dimension one foot using metric.

[Laszlo Nagy]

1 foot = 12 inches = 12 x 25.4 millimeters = 0.3048 meters in Hungary.
Maybe the difference of your values comes from different rounding.
Laszlo

[Djordje]

laszlonagy wrote:
1 foot = 12 inches = 12 x 25.4 millimeters = 0.3048 meters in Hungary.
Maybe the difference of your values comes from different rounding.
Laszlo

OK, picky ... Dubai Municipality does not take more than two decimals, they get confused! Yes, I rounded off to 0.305m for one foot!

[Karl Ottenstein]

Hey, we could just legislate a simpler conversion factor like Indiana (a US state) tried to legislate PI to be 3 to make life easy:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html

http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/humor/pi.htm



Karl

[Anonymous]

RENDER KING REVIEW

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I post this here because of the large number of ArchiCAD/C4D users who have a notify link for this thread. Talk about workflow! Render King opens the flood gates!

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Since MAXON has became a API developer of a new product for ArchiCAD users, it's importance to ArchiCAD Presentations has become all that more significant.

This past weekend I have had the pleasure to test a rather large C4D architectural file on the Render King (Render Farm).

http://www.RenderKing.com

A future review which outlines the process, files types, etc will be also posted, but for now I wanted to relate this information to you immediately because it is so inspiring.

The C4D file is of an office complex with associated site information, parking lot, trees, etc. The model originated in ArchiCAD and was further eloborated in C4D. The file size is approx. 160 MB with textures. The author of this Cinema 4D file is Michael Rensing. Thanks Michael for the terrific test file.


An animation path was set up for 650 frames, @ 720x486 D1 NTSC.

On my G3 Mac - choke - let's just forget it.

On my Dell Precision 340 2Mhz - 15 minutes per frame = 76 hours = 3 days


Compare


The animation on the Render King Network averaged 19 sec. per frame

650 x 19 sec. = 12,350 sec = 206 minutes = 3.5 hours

Oh, oh look out Rounding errors, but seriously you get the picture, the Render King network for C4D is very, very fast.

For large format renderings the tool RenderSlicer can be used.

http://www.hypa.tv/tims/download.html

http://www.renderking.com/rkvisualtut1.htm


Basically Render King gives you access to a $30,000 plus rendering system, without the associated headache of system administration. Not to mention the noise, heat wave and electric bill the racks of computers would create in your office. All for a very reasonable monthly fee.

Considering the speed with which the system rendered the 22 second animation I tested, you could easily create a very long and involved presentation of your project within two weeks. That would give you plenty of time to also incorporate the last minute changes you might experience from your client

Check out Dann Stubb's Render King web site and learn more.



Mark Burginger
Valle Verde Ranch Studio
San Diego, CA

[Anonymous]

Hi there, here's my first post..

Does anyone know if it is possible to split up the render of a single image
over a network via Cinema 4D NetRender?