dear dwight and other lightworkers (?!)

[Anonymous]

can I get a 'negativ' type of photorealistic image which only shows the shadows cast in my model, and not the furniture etc.
How do I get the shadow edges to be 'soft'?
ps. looking forward to my book, then perhaps I won't need to ask such basic stuff...
many thanks
yours
jonathan

[Dwight]

You are being harsh.

Artlantis is so automatic no tweaking is necessary.

[__archiben]

Dwight wrote:
Artlantis is so automatic no tweaking is necessary.

i hadn't realised it had become so advanced! it's shame about the output quality though.

~/archiben

[Anonymous]

i only use lightworks-archicad renderings for rough previews, cos i just can't get a nice rendering with it, just don't know how

i usualy use artlantis 4.5 for my final renderings, it's simple and easy(not to much parameters) and most archicad friendly (i think)
but still artlantis has a stupid editing interface...eg: you can't select a bunch of lights and drag copy it, or copy paste....u must copy it one by one..
Artlantis R1.0.0 is better, but haven't get the hang of it, still got overexposed light, and can't get a transparent background in TGA format,
but the radiocity is quite good and it can cast soft blury-end shadows

hey bell
that 04.jpg kitchen is pretty good (i got worse renderings using lightworks in archicad)

mr dwight do you have a website of renderings done by lightworks in archicad?
if lightworks can match up with artlantis or better... man that rocks!!!
i only need archcad from designing to final rendering.
i never saw that book of yours, since here in indonesia archicad is not as popular as autocad-3dmax

can i have a free PDF sample

[Anonymous]

~/archiben wrote:

it's quite a nasty rendering though isn't it? i'm sure you would spend more time tweaking and massaging that model in artlantis if you were really going to use it as a presentation illustration?

~/archiben

Thats the whole point.
I would not spend more time tweaking, because I did not spend ANY time tweaking.

This is not a finished project, just a first phase sketch (without maxonform, I might add, those are GDL objects).
After spending almost two days designing, I wanted some images fast overnight, so I send them to ArtlantisR, put some light, textures and objects on them, and let the computer do the rest.

This is one of a bunch of renderings that I left the computer doing for me, because I prefer to spend my time on more important stuff - designing.

And that is probably what it boils down to: If you are an architect, and your main job is designing, then you should use an easy and fast (quick and dirty) interface to render your design.

If, on the other hand, you are a illustrator, you want the best result possible for that particular rendering, so you should go all the way, and search for the most powerful rendering engine available - which is most certainly neither Artlantis nor Lightworks in ArchiCAD.

As for the alleged nastiness of the rendering, I really don't see it. After all, it landed me the job )

[Anonymous]

Art*lantis R in my opinion is a fantastic product. I have too 1 maxwell render license (it's too bugged for the moment), so now i am happy with R.

You have a very good control about lights.

[TomWaltz]

Retirado wrote:
Art*lantis R in my opinion is a fantastic product. I have too 1 maxwell render license (it's too bugged for the moment), so now i am happy with R.

You have a very good control about lights.

Funny, I thought the same think about Lightworks.

[Anonymous]

in my way i think that LW is the best for me

[Anonymous]

yep, same here..
(overexposure intended)

[__archiben]

tigr wrote:
(overexposure intended)

nice!

~/archiben

[Anonymous]

I think the above images illustrate very well what you can get out of both softwares:

-If you look at Retirado's image, you can easily see it "feels" real. Of course textures help, but the feeling comes from the complex structure of light art.lantis does automatically.

- On the other hand, Tom and Tigr's images "feel" artificial. They have the same feeling you got from art.lantis 4.5. (btw, great images guys, I would never say they are nasty images, because 1- they are not, and 2 - I don't believe in destructive criticism

If you consider the amount of time you have to dedicate to each program (light settings, textures, objects) to get the most of it, I have no doubt that art.lantis is much faster there.

For me, the final test is:
- Tom and Tigr: could you produce an image like Retirado did with archiCad lightworks?
- Retirado: could you produce images like Tom and Tigr did in art.lantis R?

Bottom line: art.lantis does what archiCAD Lightworks can not do. And it does it faster!
(And no, I have no commission, just the same envangelist passion all us have over ArchiCAD versus 2d CAD)