Door Rough Openings and the Interactive Schedule

[Anonymous]

Looking at door parameters under "Oversize" we've noticed that there is an option for adding oversize dimensions to any side of the door, the same is true with windows. I'm assuming this refers to the extra R.O. dimensions needed to properly install a window or door. Working with the interactive schedule I've been able to bring this information into our working schedule, but it still is confusing to our framers (see screenshot). What I want to know, is there any way to have the interactive schedule add this oversize information to the actual window and door heights on the schedule only while keeping the true window and door heights in the model? We tried using the R.O. sizes for the window and door sizes in the model, but the visual effects were lacking, in other words things just didn't look right. Any help we can get would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

This doesn't have to be through the interactive schedule, its just that I find the IS the easiest to use.

[Aussie John]

If you have a hankering for scripting you could make a parameter in the window or door script which adds the relevant parameters. In the schedule use that parameter.

[Anonymous]

Would this parameter have to be scripted into all of the windows and doors, or is can I do it once and have it applied to all of them. I'm not familiar with scripting at all. Where is a good place to start learning this?

[Aussie John]

it would have to be all the windows and all the doors
with the same parameter name of course

[Anonymous]

I don't think the oversize will work for you. Enter some numbers in the oversize and look at the door in 3d. I still have not figured out what anyone would use these for. Just one more mystery parameter to clutter an already busy interface.

[Aussie John]

Mike wrote:
I don't think the oversize will work for you. Enter some numbers in the oversize and look at the door in 3d. I still have not figured out what anyone would use these for. Just one more mystery parameter to clutter an already busy interface.

I have found oversize useful for instance two windows in opposite walls with a glass corner needs and oversize to work and a toilet cubicle door works well to show the gap under the door.

[Anonymous]

Aussie wrote:
I have found oversize useful for instance two windows in opposite walls with a glass corner needs and oversize to work and a toilet cubicle door works well to show the gap under the door.

I figured there must have been some reasons it has hung in there all these years...

[Thomas Holm]

Mike wrote:

Aussie wrote:
I have found oversize useful for instance two windows in opposite walls with a glass corner needs and oversize to work and a toilet cubicle door works well to show the gap under the door.

I figured there must have been some reasons it has hung in there all these years...

Nice that someone has found use for it...

This isn't just a schedule issue. if you add the oversize to windows and doors, AC shows a gap around the win/door. This gap isn't filled with anything like insulation as in the real world, it's a true gap (a hole in the wall, if you will) which shows in 3D views, renderings and S/E views. Thus it also adds to update and rendering times, since items behind the wall in question have to be calculated (which they don't without the gap when you have transparency turned off).

- There should be an option to turn off this gap in rendered views. Or maybe a switch to fill it (with the wall's material as the default).

- I tend to simply oversize the main dimensios of my windows and doors instead, just to get building dimensions right on drawings. The windows are specified separately for ordering anyway, and there I can "undersize" the manufacturing dimensions appropriately.

[Anonymous]

We have entered the the R.O. sizes for doors and windows and have used that as a workaround, but when you have an 8' door with 18" sidelights and a transom it becomes huge in the model with the R.O. sizes entered. We could just enter the R.O. sizes, generate a schedule and then change the door/window back to the actual size, but that seems ridiculous.

[Laszlo Nagy]

We are using Oversize right now in one of our Projects.
The size of the hole of Windows/Doors on the Ground Floor and First Floor are larger than the Windows/Doors themselves.
The gap on all sides will be filled with insulation.
The structural engineer needs the real size of the Window/Door holes in reinforced concrete walls.
This is why we modelled it this way - using Oversize.