CD example

[Anonymous]

Could someone direct me to an example of some CD's (be it sections, details, etc...anything) that were made using Archicad. Our firm is thinking about goign to Archicad, but we can't find any examples (examples such as pdfs, actual files) out there to see what the software can do. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
jr

[Anonymous]

Djordje wrote:

jrjr wrote:
Some peopel here in the office have AC & I believe they use it for presentations & the like.

Now, as you do have to change, the word in the street is that hardly anything is done fully using Revit only; while quite a bit is done using ArchiCAD only.

Speaking of misconceptions, this another another common one, so I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. 😉 Since 2002, 100% of the projects we design and document here in my office, are done 100% in revit, and the majority of firms currently using revit are using revit exclusively.

interesting thread

[TomWaltz]

czoog wrote:
Speaking of misconceptions, this another another common one, so I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. 😉 Since 2002, 100% of the projects we design and document here in my office, are done 100% in revit, and the majority of firms currently using revit are using revit exclusively.

interesting thread

It seems like the newer versions (7 and up) were a pretty big improvement in that regard,

[Djordje]

czoog wrote:

Djordje wrote:

jrjr wrote:
Some peopel here in the office have AC & I believe they use it for presentations & the like.

Now, as you do have to change, the word in the street is that hardly anything is done fully using Revit only; while quite a bit is done using ArchiCAD only.

Speaking of misconceptions, this another another common one, so I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. 😉 Since 2002, 100% of the projects we design and document here in my office, are done 100% in revit, and the majority of firms currently using revit are using revit exclusively.

Word on the street ... which does not make it true or false.

There is a lot of "truths" about VB/BIM software that say "XYZ can't do ..." when in fact it should read "I don't know how to do ... in XYZ" But hey, those are experts speaking ...

Again, software does nothing; it is a tool for US to do something. So, we have to learn how. The tools are personal preference, but you should know what is in the toolbox.

[Anonymous]

Djordje wrote:
[ it will be slowing you down in the first month or so, but after that you are flying.

I've been using Archicad for the last 4 years for construction drawings, and am still wondering when it'll match Autocad for speed!

For example, to move a socket in an Acad drawing and send the revised drawing to plot took 90 secs. In Archicad, I'd still be waiting for the libraries to finish loading - then I have load the module, edit the module, reload the plan, update the module, publish to a .PMK, open plotmaker, check the layout's been updated: total time 20 mins (providing all the links go okay - which frequently they don't)

[TomWaltz]

Keith wrote:

Djordje wrote:
[ it will be slowing you down in the first month or so, but after that you are flying.

I've been using Archicad for the last 4 years for construction drawings, and am still wondering when it'll match Autocad for speed!

For example, to move a socket in an Acad drawing and send the revised drawing to plot took 90 secs. In Archicad, I'd still be waiting for the libraries to finish loading - then I have load the module, edit the module, reload the plan, update the module, publish to a .PMK, open plotmaker, check the layout's been updated: total time 20 mins (providing all the links go okay - which frequently they don't)

Archicad can be pretty bad on making small changes like that.... even though it's much quicker to get to that point, the little changes are pain.

Although it sounds like you could cut a little time off with a second AC session and live-linking Plotmaker (yes, I'm a PMK person too. I'm speaking hypothetically, since you also roll the dice with BGArchicad....).

[Anonymous]

This has become a very interesting thread. I think the reason why the office didnt upgrade to ADT a while back, was that a rumor went around saying that Autodesk wouldnt be making autocad anymore....that they were going to focus on Revit. So the office just kept using acad200i.

You are right...politics have made the guys who use AC here into just modelers. They don't have much experience in making working drawings with it.

I think the office should have someone & demonstrate Revit to us. I havent heard much of anything about it.

[Anonymous]

Djordje wrote:

There is a lot of "truths" about VB/BIM software that say "XYZ can't do ..." when in fact it should read "I don't know how to do ... in XYZ" But hey, those are experts speaking ...

Again, software does nothing; it is a tool for US to do something. So, we have to learn how. The tools are personal preference, but you should know what is in the toolbox.

I agree, well said.

[Anonymous]

Tom -
thanks for that. I expected to get a barrage of '...yes but look how much more quickly you can insert a window into a wall!'

I think that it's because of issues like the one I mentioned that technicians favour Archicad (I'm one, BTW). Archicad is great at putting together proposals quickly - but at production information stage, it can be very frustrating when a complicated wall junction won't resolve correctly. On more than one occasion I've had to resort to exploding the elements and patching them back together using lines and fills.