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Cut plane problem

Anonymous
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Maybe someone has solved this one:

I have a plan with a short wall (4'-8"h) beside taller wall.
The tall wall has a window with a sill height of 4'-9".

I want both walls to appear "cut" and the window to appear in plan. If the cut plane is set to cut through the window (4'-9" or higher) then the short wall is not cut. If the cut plane is set to cut through the low wall then it is below the window...you see what I mean.

A gold start goes to the first person to solve the problem. 😉

Thanks,
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Eduardo Rolon
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Is there a reason as to why you cannot set the the Window display to symbolic?
Did I get the star
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Anonymous
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It is set to symbolic, but it still doesn't show when the cut plane is below it.
Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
Tried again and it works for me, unless I am misunderstanding something
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Aussie John
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set the walls to projected and the cut line through the window and should work
Cheers John
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Anonymous
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I’m not sure I understood this correctly but the window shows up cut in plan regardless what I set my cut plane to (see image)
This is using the default AC 10 settings.
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Anonymous
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Hassanen,
You may have the window set to symbolic
In which case it will show regardless to the
floor plan cut plane. Set the window to
another floor plan display option and
see if that works.
Peter Devlin
Anonymous
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Peter wrote:
You may have the window set to symbolic
In which case it will show regardless to the floor plan cut plane.
yes you're right..
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Eric Wrote:
Maybe someone has solved this one:

I have a plan with a short wall (4'-8"h) beside taller wall.
The tall wall has a window with a sill height of 4'-9".

I want both walls to appear "cut" and the window to appear in plan. If the cut plane is set to cut through the window (4'-9" or higher) then the short wall is not cut. If the cut plane is set to cut through the low wall then it is below the window...you see what I mean.

A gold start goes to the first person to solve the problem.

Thanks,
Now's a good time to get familiar with the GS definition of 'Symbolic'. I like to think of Symbolic as meaning 'Show this element the same as it would have in ArchiCAD 9 or earlier'. This is the opposite to the term Projected, which can similarly be defined as 'Show this element in ArchiCAD 10 style, taking into consideration the Cut Plane'.

The are two options for your case.

1. Have the Cut Plane cutting down at a level where it cuts through your lower wall, and then force your upper window to show like it would have in ArchiCAD 9 or earlier, or

2. Have the Cut Plane cutting up at a level where it cuts through your window, and then force your lower wall to show like it would have in ArchiCAD 9 or earlier.

Lets take Option 1: Set your Cut Plane at say 4'. Both of your walls are set to Projected (either method - and Cut could work, but let's not confuse the issue). So now both of your walls are essentially set to take note of the new Cut Plane feature of ArchiCAD 10, and consequently display their Cut Fills. Now for the window, it will have to be set to Symbolic, so as not to take the cut plane into effect. So it needs to be set to Symbolic to show up like in ArchiCAD 9, because it is above the Cut Plane. Just try setting it to Projected and you will see that it disappears because it is above the Cut Plane, and it is using the Cut Plane to determine how it displays.

Or we could go with Option 2: Set your Cut Plane at say 5'. First thing you'll notice is that your lower wall, which is still set to Projected does not show it's cut fill, because it is no longer being cut. Your window however will now appear because the Cut Plane is cutting through it. So all you need to do is force your lower wall to 'Show the same as it would have in ArchiCAD 9 or earlier', and you do that by setting it to Symbolic (Cut). You can only do this if the wall's 'Shown On/Link To Stories' setting is set to 'Own Story Only', as that was the only option in ArchiCAD 9.

IMHO as a rule of thumb, it is best to leave your cut plane at one set height, and force the odd element to Symbolic where the Cut Plane does not cut through them. Basically just force them to 'show like they were in ArchiCAD 9 or earlier'.

Cheers,
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Thomas Holm
Booster
Peter wrote:
Hassanen,
You may have the window set to symbolic
In which case it will show regardless to the
floor plan cut plane. Set the window to
another floor plan display option and
see if that works.
Peter Devlin
I feel there is something wrong with this. I want a clear hierarchy. Of course, a window set as symbolic should display like that whereever it displays. But WHERE and IF it displays should be determined by the WALL's settings. If the wall is set to Cut Only and not visible, I should'nt see the window either. If the wall is set to cut only, and the cutplane doesn't touch the window, it shouldn't display either. If I want a window to display when it is not touched by the cutplane, the WALL should be set as Symbolic. If the wall is set as Projected, and the cutplane doesn't touch the window, it should be seen but in a subdued mode - maybe dashed - but HOW the window looks -that is to be determined by the window's settings! This is a wish!
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