Helvetica Font off centre

[Brendon Reid]

Hi All

I have encountered a Font issue that is not specific to Archicad version or platform. I have a commercial Font (Helvetica) that displays offset from its centre. It means that when called into an object (such as a Label or Marker etc), it never displays in the position intended. See attached image: 'OFFSET FONT' is the offending font - notice it sits higher in its bounding box. 'PERFECTLY ALIGNED FONT' is how most other fonts locate within its bounding box. It has nothing to do with the Text Style setting 'Leading' as this is set to 100%.

I have tested this in multiple Archicad versions (22,23,24,25) and on both Windows 10 and Mac OS 10 and 11. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know of a fix? It is driving me around the bend!

[Barry Kelly]

I am on Windows but am not seeing this.

What happens if you mix Arial (or another font) and Helvetica all in the same piece of text.

Barry.

[Brendon Reid]

See attached. Adding another font to the textbox does appear to 'recentre' it. It is bizarre. This is actually a client (on Windows) who I developed a template for who is using this Font. We have had nothing but trouble. I am wondering if it started with me developing a template on Mac with this font and passed the issue on. I might try a New & Reset All on Windows and start with this font outside the template and see. Cheers

[Barry Kelly]

That is strange.

Is it the same if you go Helvetica/Arial in the same text?

This is the info for Helvetica when I open the font file.

Barry.

[Brendon Reid]

I should have clarified, the font name is actually 'Helvetica LT Pro' and is an OpenType font. There have been issues in the past with OpenType fonts according to here https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Design-forum/Open-Type-Fonts-Shift/m-p/145228/page/2?attachment-... . I have just opened Windows 10 and the same issue is occurring in a brand new Archicad session. I wonder if it is actually a bug? 

[Barry Kelly]

It gets even more interesting.

When I look at the properties for my Arial font, it is an Open Type font.

So I am guessing it can't be a problem with all open type fonts.

I just checked through some more OT fonts - some are OK and some are shifted.

Calibri for example is shifted up.

Must be to do with how the font was created and Archicad just doesn't handle it well.

Barry.

[Lingwisyer]

Looking at your images, your text alignment looks fine... What is different is your Space Above. Hence why it looks normal when with another font. Without the other font on the same line, it is shrinking your bounding box. If you multiline, does the Space Above have an impact or does it use Line Spacing? 

Ling.

[Eduardo Rolon]

This has been a Mac bug Issue since IIRC AC12, I gave up on reporting it during the Betas.

[Brendon Reid]

Hi Eduardo

Unfortunately, my issue is not specific to Mac in this instance. I can replicate on both Mac and Windows!

[Brendon Reid]

Hi Ling

Yes, the space above is impacted. Multiline doesn't change anything. Line Spacing occurs, but the Text still offsets up