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GDL symbols not aligning correctly in AC14 schedule

looper222
Participant
I have some custom library parts that I made for our office electrical symbols, they have worked for years (made in AC8). I have even updated and remade them with AC14 and I still have the same problem:

In our electrical schedule, the first field is the symbol which has always shown up correctly, neatly aligned in the center of the symbol field box. Now for some reason, they are all over the place horizontally (see image)

Does anyone have any idea why this could be happening and what I can do to fix it?

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Barry Kelly
Moderator
I have noticed this as well.
Your objects are rotated and/or mirrored on the plan.

Of course this may be deliberate so you may not be able to change it.
It may be affected by the way the object was scripted - ie distance from the origin - which makes it move way outside your schedule.
But even if scripted at 0,0 then the rotation and mirroring still makes the image look wrong although it stays in the schedule.

Also when you have multiple instances of one item and you group like objects so they count as a total (rather than individulally) it will use the image from one instance of the object and it is a bit of pot luck to find out which one it is.

Barry.
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Just tried with the latest hotfix for 14 and it all looks pretty good.

Just compared it with version 10 as that is all I had running at the moment.
Same objects rotated and mirrored exactly the same in both versions
Barry.
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Barry Kelly
Moderator
Looking closer at your image it may not be a rotation or mirroring problem (I would still check in your plan though).

What settings do you have for the preview cells in the schedule?

Barry.
One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11
looper222
Participant
Thanks for the help... does not seem to be related to the placement on the plan (one symbol placed exactly as the part was saved still has the same problem). And the settings for the preview seem to be okay. If I click the "reduce preview to fit" button, it reduces them and forces them to fit in the cell - this is at least better, but the scale is way off. It clearly has to do with some defined origin point.

Another thing - the symbols without text show up fine, like FAN (EX). This means that it must be some origin point associated with the text.

Any idea how to fix that?
looper222
Participant
Another test. I tried making a new library part directly on the plan origin point. This had no effect, it came out with the exact same displacement (in the schedule) as the library part that was made off of the origin point.
Barry Kelly
Moderator
Check the scale that you have for the schedule.
You want it to be the same scale as you view the objects in plan.
Barry.
One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11