2024-05-16 09:13 PM - edited 2024-05-17 02:58 AM
I've been off the boards for a bit, so I'm not sure this has been discussed previously, but...
There is another SSA price increase! For anyone doing the math, in 2022, 2023 and now 2024, in the span of 24 months, that is a 25% price increase.
Why Graphisoft?
I am still crashing on my MacTel machine. Even on the Apple Silicon version I have to restart every now and then when strange anomalies arise, only in ArchiCAD, and one that tech support says they can't solve.
How can there be justification for raising the price AGAIN when you've just put out a perpetually buggy version of ArchiCAD? Maybe the buggiest one to date. We Mac users to wait months after release for solutions to the crashing. This is seriously bordering on a breach of contract or lack of good faith on GS's part. We paid for software that we had a reasonable expectation of stability for, but to date, there seems to not be a crash proof version... and then you raise the price.
Graphisoft ( @Marton Kiss @Akos Pfemeter) we need a legitimate explanation and most likely a repeal of this price increase. Again, this is the third price increase totaling around 25% in the past 24 months.
My suspicion is that this is a tactic by GS to force perpetual license holders (their most loyal of customers) onto their subscription model.
Operating system used: Mac Apple Silicon 14.4.1
2025-05-08 02:36 PM
To clarify…
"You will use your previous versions (26-30) while your GSID lets you. If GS decides to "disable" the GSID then you will not be able to launch them".
All other versions you will need to run under a VM.
Mac Studio M4 Max 64GB ram, OS X 10.XX latest
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2025-05-08 04:08 PM - edited 2025-05-08 04:22 PM
Oh, and it seems to get worse the more I read: Currently have a perpetual license for AC28 with SSA maintenance contract. However, one must PAY to convert to an equivalent subscription (on top of the subscription fee) and SURRENDER the perpetual license for AC28 for an AC25 perpetual license.
All this and Graphisoft state that, at the very least, there will be an annual 8% increase in subscription pricing !
Simply unbelievable ! (I'm struggling to remain polite...)
P.S. Annual rate of inflation in the EU is 2-3%.....
2025-05-08 04:52 PM - edited 2025-05-08 04:57 PM
Yeah, its really sad. A lot could have been done to increase revenue instead of this nonsense. Checkout what ACCA software is doing; they are dividing all their services into affordable chunks you can rent as needed, im sure others are doing the same.
So even when copying, GS is copying the wrong practices.
2025-05-08 06:06 PM
The core of my reply to the email advising me of the impending end of SSA contracts:
Having been busy last year when it was time to renew my SSA subscription, I glossed over the impending transition to an enforced subscription model at much higher pricing.
What I have read & learnt today from the Graphisoft website and the ArchiCAD forum is most displeasing, and I perceive this enforced change - especially with certain conditions - as an ill considered insult to long-time ArchiCAD users.
I shudder to think how much I have spent with Graphisoft since my first purchase of ArchiCAD 4. To recap, after purchasing the perpetual license with subsequent releases and supporting and advocating for ArchiCAD for 20 years, my SSA subscription was at a fair & reasonable £605 in 2021. Only 4 years later it has climbed steeply to £930. If I understand correctly, the enforced change to subscription equates to me having to pay for the transition (£300) to an annual cost of £2,256 to retain equivalent functionality. Hence, I am being forced to pay for the privilege of an increase of 372% in only 5 years against an annual inflation rate in the EU of 2-3% (2-3% other than 2022 with Covid. Even with Covid the average annual rate of inflation is 4.5%).
And, this is on top of having to subscribe to various add-ons to compensate ArchiCAD’s weaknesses in key BIM areas (point cloud import & manipulation, terrain modelling, coverings, cabinets, energy performance analysis & regulatory compliance, etc.). I have looked at the ArchiCAD roadmap: To describe it as ‘uninspiring’ would be an understatement. There is absolutely nothing in the roadmap that would justify paying, for example, £6,768 over 3 years for a Collaborate subscription.
To add insult to injury, the terms of the transition impose surrendering our perpetual licenses, currently AC28 for me, for a perpetual AC25 license and the honour of having Graphisoft reserve the right to revoke the current license at their discretion. Presumably, one (inadvertently) missed monthly payment and my business is immediately crippled.
I also question the legality of the EULA giving Graphisoft or their agents the authority to invade our premises, search our equipment & records, and determine punitive financial sanctions without a search warrant. I would not be surprised, in the current context, to find further abuses in the EULA terms & conditions.
The accountants at Graphisoft / Nemetschek may be celebrating Victory Day, but it is not a glorious day for me and, I imagine, many veteran ArchiCAD users.
2025-05-08 06:50 PM
The precise details and FAQ answers just keep changing, which is disappointing to see (to say the least).
"Originally" when the conversion process was described in posts and FAQ, people on SSA would be able to continue upgrading through Archicad 30. But, now if it is the case that no SSA contracts can be renewed after 2025, that means that with AC 30 coming out in the fall of 2026 - anyone whose SSA expires before then will be left with a perpetual AC 29 license... rather than 30 as was anticipated.
Also, the FAQs for conversion used to say that if you converted from perpetual to subscription and later left subscription, you would be left with a perpetual license for the last version (30 ) that was available under SSA/perpetual ... as opposed to the 'conversion perpetual' license for 25. I cannot find anything that says that any longer. Disconcerting.
2025-05-08 07:45 PM
We live in a Maga world now......
2025-05-08 08:29 PM
What on earth are you referring to? I hope you don't mean this is the US president's fault as to how GS is behaving. If that is what you mean, there is no basis for that hyperbolic, disconnected thought....good grief! Lets keep politics out of this forum, please and focus on the real issue - GS is the REAL issue.
2025-05-08 08:35 PM - edited 2025-05-08 08:37 PM
2025-05-08 08:37 PM - edited 2025-05-08 08:40 PM
and of course, that other acronym: FYMBTTSMMOOU
which stands for, Fix Your Mess Before Trying To Squeeze More Money Out OF Us
2025-05-08 08:38 PM
@jl_lt If that the case....funny then! Didn't realize that was a thing.