ArchiCAD 10

[Anonymous]

GS please give us a list of ac 10 will be able to do

many users are dissapointed by the progress of the last versions and thinking about switching from archicad to another cad software.

[Anonymous]

As i said, and i will say it a million times.
Archicad has skipped a version.
V9 was featureless and this is why we are frustrated.
We are just 2 year behind, and many many things will be not answered.

V10 might be a good release. But not a GREAT one.

Not having a scripting language (vb like- coldfusion like) is a MAJOR dissadvantage. Simple things that could be accomplished by scrippting must be done by using the complex API. This is a great dissadvantage,
GDL by design cannot be user interactive.
But we could have a scripting language that could change GDL parameters by asking the user. For example pick a point, give me a value! and so on..

The material browser is simply dissapointing.
Assigning and changing materials is really difficult.

Its really bad to welcome a good release with mixed feelings only because the previous one was the biggest dissapointment i could imagine.

I know i whine a lot. But at least i am correct

[Djordje]

oreopoulos wrote:
V9 was featureless and this is why we are frustrated.

The whole version was the new feature. But it takes one to understand.

Do you prefer watching a Wim Wenders movie or a Coke ad?

[Steve Jepson]

Pepsi. I like Cindy. Why doesn't she git rid of that little mole thing?

[Anonymous]

I prefer Godar. But i think that is not our case.
Your opinion is respected, but looking at the big fat list of basic features missing, and knowing how easy it is to program a GUI and knowing that all the effort in v9 has gone in Estimator+Constructor makes me think that v9 was a skipped version.

I prefer a text gui with 1000 features than a perfect gui with 10 features.
But this is my approach.

I think that a cad software in 2006 cannot handle materials so badly.
An advanced app, that is around the market for 20 years cannot be without a scrpiting environment. It cannot handle curved surfaces as a taboo, cannot be without a proper keynote system. Rotate in 3d cannot be a taboo. Using seo (that we first saw in autocad more than a decade ago) cannot be at a primitve stage and the list is big.

This is why a new GUI was not important. It is welcomed ofcourse. But not on the cost of important features.

Just a differnet point of view.

[Steve Jepson]

oreopoulos,

You state the arguments exactly right. Well said! However, I disagree about scripting.

Any amount of text scripting is too much for me. Personally, I do not ever want to see anything that looks like a command line again. Ever.

There will always be better ways to do things, but as it is, I can still get ArchiCAD to do anything I need it to do. Perhaps not everything you would want it to do.

I am quite sure that I have already recouped my investment in the V9 up grade. My productivity is much higher now than it was with 8.

I do not expect big changes from a program that is already peaking, as you would (or did) in a newer program like Revit. AutoDesk is bound to have more radical changes in their upgrades because they have more catching up to do that ArchiCAD.

If V10 adds as much increased productivity as V9 did, I will be very impressed.

[Rakela Raul]

If V10 adds as much increased productivity as V9 did, I will be very impressed.

then be impressed steve!! cuz having pm inside ac is a lot to ask, if rumor true of course
(also true, that pm should have been inside ac in ac9, cuz pm in ac9 wasnt taken care of as it should have been)

[Rakela Raul]

hey, dont fight me..i just said that to reach 400 posts

[Steve Jepson]

I think you are right Rakela, and I think I will be very impressed.

I am a one-man show and don't make plans bigger than 8 or 10 sheets very often. Mostly house plans. With the templates I have it is not always worth it to fight with PlotMaker. The redraw time kills me. Larger projects of course PM is an essential tool.

Why can't Graphisoft at least tell us a little about how it will work in V10 ?
They have not even officially acknowledged that it is going to happen.

[Steve Jepson]

I am trying to get 500 by the end of the day.

[Anonymous]

Steve

Scripting is valuable because you can make smarter and easier objects.
Now gdl cannot interact with the user. You cannot select a fill and trace its points. This can only be done with plugins. If scripting was avaliable, many many many smart routines would be created. Perhaps you would not like to write a script, but everyone could benifit because more routines would be made possible.

anyway. just my point of view.

Glad we agree on all other