ArchiCAD 17 announced

[Laszlo Nagy]

ArchiCAD 17 is announced today:

http://www.graphisoft.com/archicad/archicad_17/overview/

[Anonymous]

Hello. Thy AC17 is awesome. Thy only question is = The BIMx is mean = I do not have to buy tha single Bimx ? Two in One ? Thanks

[Rakela Raul]

Honestly I don't know what will be in ArchiCAD 18.

good one !!

[Rick Thompson]

outpostarc wrote:
These global connections are probably a good first step. I would hate to have to manually do every connection each time. However it would be nice to be able to alter an unusual connection graphically.

17 will default open in "Legacy" mode, so everything will be as before until you decide to use the newer way. However, I think most everyone will love the new work flow. It will take getting use to, and a big huge investment to clean up any templates you might rely on, including Favorites. Once done though:) Migrating is a big consideration, but I have 300 ~ 400 plns to eventually migrate and I am not worried at all, not for what I end up with. There is a new feature to delete and replace available fro building materials, composites and layers which help a lot. I am much more excited about this release than any since probably 10.

[Aaron Bourgoin]

I'm with Rick. This sounds like an awesome release.

[Anonymous]

laszlonagy wrote:

mthd wrote:

laszlonagy wrote:
You know, rumours are rumours...
Who knows what part of them is true and to what degree...

Lazlo, your not dropping hints are you for AC18?

AC9 had Light works so AC18 has a new RE in it?

Rumours are Rumours!

I am not dropping hints.
Honestly I don't know what will be in ArchiCAD 18.

That's OK I am happy with the rendering engines we have anyway, plus we can always get Artlantis if we need to.

What is in 18 is probably not set for a while yet but we hope it is as good as 17.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Bricklyne wrote:
I'm curious as to what "software" was used to make the ArchiCAD 17 PBC Concept Demo video on their website which shows off the new Building Materials and Priority Based Connections in a cutaway section video (with live cutting planes) of assemblies on their Youtube Channel shown below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CaZQUywIxY&feature=player_embedded

The practical part of me says that they probably exported the model to Cinema4D (more likely) or Artlantis and did the animation there coordinating the materials through the respective addon.

I asked the guys at GS and was told that the model was created in ArchiCAD and it was modelled to construction level. Then it was exported to Cinema 4D where the animation was created.

[Anonymous]

mthd wrote:
What is in 18 is probably not set for a while yet but we hope it is as good as 17.

I expect that 18 is 90%+ specified and probably well underway. 19 is presumably roadmapped and likely largely spec'd and ramping up development now that 17 is wrapping up. AFAIK GS keeps two versions under concurrent development and maps out at least three versions ahead.

[Anonymous]

Hello. Thy AC17 is awesome. The only question is = The BIMx is mean = I do not have to buy tha single Bimx ? Two in One ? Thanks

[Bricklyne Clarence]

laszlonagy wrote:

Bricklyne wrote:
I'm curious as to what "software" was used to make the ArchiCAD 17 PBC Concept Demo video on their website which shows off the new Building Materials and Priority Based Connections in a cutaway section video (with live cutting planes) of assemblies on their Youtube Channel shown below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CaZQUywIxY&feature=player_embedded

The practical part of me says that they probably exported the model to Cinema4D (more likely) or Artlantis and did the animation there coordinating the materials through the respective addon.

I asked the guys at GS and was told that the model was created in ArchiCAD and it was modelled to construction level. Then it was exported to Cinema 4D where the animation was created.

Thanks Laszlo; that's good to know.

Part of the reason I was asking was because in order to do construction simulation animations like that (one of which I've done and rendered in 3DS Max) you do have to model to construction level as they informed you, and that typically involves being able to separate the core, skin, reinforcement and even discrete cladding elements of the respective construction elements and then animating each separately.

In current and previous versions of ArchiCAD, that would necessitate modelling extra elements (like an extra wall or walls to represent to represent some of the attributes that were already specified in your wall type composite structure because once you exported the model, even composite walls and walls built from complex profiles would be exported as singular elements which would make separated animations like that difficult to handle and cordinate.

I imagine that the improved Building Materials in AC17 which allow something like a composite wall or slab to have actual separate materials for the core and skin materials rather than just distinct fills with different priority numbers, makes it easier now since it's typically easier to separate elements by material type since you lose all fill and hatching information (and hence the core separations) once you export your model out of ArchiCAD.

Of course, an integrated solution with everything done from within AC (in an improved render engine and control interface) would be the best of all, but since that's not the case, I guess this is the next best step allowing us more control with the model once we export it and possibly even with the existing integrated 3rd party solutions like Maxwell's Fire and Octane's real time CPU and GPU renderers using information from directly from ArchiCAD's 3D window.

[Ernest Atanasiu]

Priority based connections should solve most of the problems with intersecting bodies, but I think it's too detail oriented and difficult to manage in buildings with lots of materials.

What if a detail requires a specific priority and another detail requires different? I know, the obvious solution is to have 2 materials with same characteristics but different priorities, but this is not clean and clear. Which material should I use in intersection no. 3?

What happens when you import a module file with same materials but different priorities or inverse?

Is it possible to migrate an AC17 file back in 16? How is PBC translated?

Maybe in 18 the priority will be done automatically, based on a graphical interface, where you can stretch the end of the skin and it will overlap the other element, thus automatically assigning a priority.

Also, I see that Core Based Wall Reference Line is changed, but why do we need a reference line since we have PBC? What is the role of the reference line in 17? Just for area calculating? Couldn't this be solved with an attribute of the material/skin?

Element Association to Story Heights is a big improvement, btw.