ArchiCAD 17 announced

[Laszlo Nagy]

ArchiCAD 17 is announced today:

http://www.graphisoft.com/archicad/archicad_17/overview/

[Anonymous]

epiteszikon wrote:
Hello. Thy AC17 is awesome. Thy only question is = The BIMx is mean = I do not have to buy tha single Bimx ? Two in One ? Thanks

BIMx is included.

[Anonymous]

I never really understood reference lines.....


Looking like another interesting release

Im wondering how these new priority based connections connections will work with the renovation tool, specifically when adding exterior insulation to a complex wall, which at the moment needs to a work around

Any news on the renovation tool and pbc?

Also, what are the real benefits of this new multi core enabled version?

[Karl Ottenstein]

OT since two people have asked why we have reference lines: Reference lines are critical; do take the time to understand how they are used and can be used.

The reference line for a wall, for example, "anchors" a space-critical surface of the wall (your choice of what you deem space critical). Frequently, the reference line might be the exterior structural face of a composite or profiled wall. By placing the wall with the reference line there, you can change the entire assembly of the wall and still have the structural, bearing volume of the new structure aligned at that position, all in one step by selecting a new wall type. The exterior skins may grow or shrink. The core(s) may grow or shrink, and the interior finish skins can grow or shrink, but the entire structure will align as intended - e.g., outside face of bearing core to outside face of bearing core below / outside edge of slab below, etc.

[Anonymous]

Karl wrote:
The reference line for a wall, for example, "anchors" a space-critical surface of the wall (your choice of what you deem space critical).

Examples:

1. Either face of sheathing or face of stud may align with the foundations. Placing the reference line accordingly means changes in interior or exterior finish thicknesses will not affect the wall placement.

2. Interior partitions may be placed by face of finish or face of stud depending on the requirements.

The workaround of offsetting the reference line by a fixed distance, besides being a bit of a pain, means that changes in finishes on the reference side can move the framing.

[Ernest Atanasiu]

I understand the role of the reference line, really.
I guess it was just wishful thinking, to merge the role of the reference line into the new PBC thing.

[Thomas Holm]

Any news about library management, especially during version transitions?

[Thomas Holm]

In the demo video
Archicad 17 New Features: 014 - Model-based element display and solid element operations
http://www.youtube.com/embed/KbvnDzzoaqM?hd=1&autoplay=1

the narrator says "the correct 3D contours of model-based elements are displayed on the floor plan" (my emphasis)
and
"not only 3D elements, but also Solid Element Operations, are displayed correctly on the floor plan"

I can't find any statement limiting this to Morphs only (as in AC16) or such.

Seems to me this is what we've been asking for. Even if I have to use the "horizontal 3D document" method, as long as it's the one-click method described, and doesn't limit me in any other way, it should work and eliminate the need for Bricklyne's workaround.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Bricklyne wrote:

laszlonagy wrote:

Bricklyne wrote:
....and THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!! GRAPHISOFT for finally fixing the correct display of SEO's on plan view!!!!!

I can't tell you how many times (even in the last few weeks) I've had to resort to the old work-around of saving a .jpg image file of the top view in Axonometric on the 3D window and then saving that image as a worksheet and then scaling it to the right size by referencing the floor plan through virtual reference and then finally using virtual reference again on the floor plan with that image to trace the correct SEO cut of a cut element just to have it display correctly on plan.

Bricklyne,
Can you tell me which feature you are referring to?
Results of SEOs shown on Floor Plan? For which elements?
I might be wrong but I am not aware of such a new feature.
Or I might just be misunderstanding something.

Turns out that it was a mistake on my part.

I saw one of the demo videos which seemed to indicate that Graphisoft had fixed the problem or bug wherein elements that had SEO operations performed on them did not show the cut at all in plan view forcing one to have to manually draw it for documentation purposes.

It seems like it was actually a Morph element they were showing with the cut since Morph elements display SEO cuts on the floor plan correctly.
For all other construction elements (walls, roofs, slabs, C/W's, etc) there is no cut shown unless you convert it into a Morph, I guess, which is kind of useless if still hope for that element to function in its intended purpose and especially if you have to modify it later on as a construction element.


So, my mistake.

We're still stuck with work-arounds to deal with that issue, I suppose.

[Eduardo Rolon]

These are the limits on SEO representation on floor plan I have found.

1. The Operator has to be a Morph.
2. It has to be a 3D floor plan document for it to work.
3. All doors will be drawn as projected from the 3D which means that they are closed and have no line indicating opening direction.

[Eduardo Rolon]

3D Floor Plan

[Steve Jepson]

Matthew wrote:
Yay!

ArchiCAD 17. The Wishlist Edition!

I can assure you, now there will be even more wishes to wish for