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Creating a complex dome in archicad - help and suggestions?

Anonymous
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Hallo everyone, I'll try to be as descriptive as possible so that you can understand my problem... first, I'm only beginning with meshes and morphs, so I may miss a lot of things even though I followed tons of tutorials on youtube.
So, my goal is creating this two domes in AC16:

http://www.archicadobjects.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=pos...

http://www.archicadobjects.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=pos...

http://www.salentu.com/volta-a-spigolo.asp

http://www.salentu.com/volta-a-squadro.asp

I'm starting from the "volta a spigolo" since it looks like being the easiest to model but, hey... I'm not managing to create even this 😕
My main problem, I guess, is that I don't know how to create a complex ellipsoid using a mesh. I need it for the upper part of the dome and I'll also have to define its shape in plant. But I have a rectangle based dome, not a square, so it's not easy at all...
Do you have any idead on how would you model something like that in AC16?
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Hmooslechner
Moderator
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pnqtw3sxd6wixr2/Vaults%205.gsm


I made a GDL for many normal used vaults. (Cross, Kloster, Domes ....)

When i have time i will insert star..

Try it and make replies!
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Anonymous
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Hmooslechner wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pnqtw3sxd6wixr2/Vaults%205.gsm


I made a GDL for many normal used vaults. (Cross, Kloster, Domes ....)

When i have time i will insert star..

Try it and make replies!
Woah! That's a really awesome object! How to you include various objects in ONE object like you did? I'll surely make the vid so that you can expand this object, only when u do it, please post it back
also, when creating "spigolo" or "squadro" vaults (these are vaults that are typical of my region, Puglia, in south Italy), remember to let various materials be customizable because it's often important to use different textures for the various structural elements!
Hmooslechner
Moderator
Next time when i am in Puglia, i have to look at Your buildings!

Normaly i like to kitesurf there on Gargano - Vieste
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Anonymous
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Hmooslechner wrote:
Next time when i am in Puglia, i have to look at Your buildings!

Normaly i like to kitesurf there on Gargano - Vieste
eh, next time u come in Puglia send me a PM 😉
Hmooslechner
Moderator
Just to try for You

I made this by by morphing, converting it to a GDL and programmed it further - so it is very slow but functioning.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q528rm2tp6ncpxs/Starvault%201%20int.gsm

You can change colours, drag x and y for the opening measures, (z only in dialogbox), show it as shell or as cutted out of a full block

have fun with it!
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Anonymous
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Hmooslechner wrote:
Just to try for You

I made this by by morphing, converting it to a GDL and programmed it further - so it is very slow but functioning.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q528rm2tp6ncpxs/Starvault%201%20int.gsm

You can change colours, drag x and y for the opening measures, (z only in dialogbox), show it as shell or as cutted out of a full block

have fun with it!
Thank you, downloaded and tried it! I've never seen such kind of star vault honestly... normally, the star is not 3D, with a thickness and it's not going out of the vault in the inside, it's normally inset.
Hmooslechner
Moderator
There are so many different kinds of Vaults, so that i now went to another way than program it plan in GDL.

In the GDL You tried - it is possible to take any kind of 3D-Shape in 5x5m, safe as GDL - and put the created text with minor changes 3 times in my code in the place of the old code.

I have to make some simple changes in GDL to just make on single place anyone can place the to gets his vault. wait some short days..


This starvault is more typical for the kind of gothic buildings..
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Hmooslechner
Moderator
Just made a Vid for Your kind of Starvault. It seems to be no good Way to put this in GDL- because it will make Archicad too slow to work - i have tried it in several ways..

It should be uploadet within 2 Hours..

http://youtu.be/PtZqREmmGFk

Whats not told in the Vid: It is always a good idea to keep copys of the construction-Lines and Parts to have the ability to alter parts and put it together new.
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Hmooslechner
Moderator
Just made a Vid for Your kind of Starvault. It seems to be no good Way to put this in GDL- because it will make Archicad too slow to work - i have tried it in several ways..

It should be uploadet within 2 Hours..

http://youtu.be/PtZqREmmGFk - No sound!

Whats not told in the Vid: It is always a good idea to keep copys of the construction-Lines and Parts to have the ability to alter parts and put it together new.


OK - The sound of this is not with the file correctly - the better one is in upload now for aproximatly 2 hours:

youtu.be/Kqnz3q3eLag
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Hmooslechner
Moderator
Volta a squadro:

I made this tut. with much less constructive rules - whats never a good idea. The first vid is not correct al last, so i startet a second part with the right way.

Its in upload now for also aproximately 2-3 hours:

Part 1

youtu.be/KVaDry_Qhrc

Part 2

upcoming now in a few minutes:

youtu.be/UDWFAd8JoB0
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