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Double doors not separate. Any fix?

I was using a SmartParts double door, and noticed that vertical line between the leaves was missing. (It was showing if the door was highlighted, though, so it's "there".) I thought maybe it was a bug in the door object, but then noticed that the Graphisoft double door has the same problem. Any suggestions before I add this as a 2D line in the elevations?
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
AC26 (since AC6.0), Win10
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Stephen Dolbee
Booster
I just had that happen with a Door & Window Builder bi-fold door. Four doors in all, but only one vertical line showed up.

Steve
AC19(9001), 27" iMac i7, 12 gb ram, ATI Radeon HD 4850 512mb, OS 10.12.6
I don't have a solution, but 10 has brought changes in surface cleanup. For example, contiguous roofs and slabs clean up in 3D, while in 9 they didn't. Objects too. Prism-based object surfaces will clean up like slabs.

Apparently, it extends to surfaces within objects as well. I have a stone arch door, where the arch is made of separate stones. In 9, I get lines between them, as I would like. In 10, they all clean up.

I would think the pair of doors are touching, and cleaning up. (I couldn't say why one of them wouldn't.)

Some investigation is in order, to determine if the edges can be forced to show, with status codes or whatever. If it's controllable, it would require revised objects.

I wish GS would just say: Matching, adjacent surfaces clean up, full stop. Objects have further flexibility in the status codes.
James Murray

Archicad 27 • Rill Architects • macOS • OnLand.info
Anonymous
Not applicable
I can confirm that the AC 10 double door does not show the line
between the panels.
I have a double door object and the panels are made with PRISM_
and they show the joint line.

I did some checking concerning prism based objects cleaning-up
with each other when one plane of each object is co-planer and touching
and am having inconsistent results.

Some times two prism based objects clean-up sometimes not.

Peter Devlin
Anonymous
Not applicable
There is a work-around for this door.
Set the 3D opening angle to 0.20°.
Peter Devlin
That works great! Thanks, Peter!
Richard
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Richard Morrison, Architect-Interior Designer
AC26 (since AC6.0), Win10
I'm also having this problem with the line between the door and frame not appearing (specifically with the Storefront objects, which assume that the face of door aligns with the face of frame). Setting the opening angle in 3D to 0.20 gets me the top line, but not the lines to either side of the doors.

I'm sure this is a condition that will continue to appear (or not appear) with other objects. GS needs to address this, as we cannot be expected to manually add 2D lines to our 3D objects to get them to appear correctly!
MacBook Pro Apple M2 Max, 96 GB of RAM
AC27 US (5003) on Mac OS Ventura 13.6.2
Started on AC4.0 in 91/92/93; full-time user since AC8.1 in 2004
Anonymous
Not applicable
James wrote:
I wish GS would just say: Matching, adjacent surfaces clean up, full stop. Objects have further flexibility in the status codes.
It appears that the former part is true. All co-planar faces of like material seem to clean up to each other. This is of course a major improvent toward giving us the appearance we want in live elevations and hidden line views. It also seems to have brought improvements to sketch rendering.

I'm not sure about the latter bit. It seems that the effect of the new clean-up routines on library parts was not anticipated. One way or another this needs to be fixed.
Matthew wrote:
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James Murray

Archicad 27 • Rill Architects • macOS • OnLand.info
There's really no excuse for this one.
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James Murray

Archicad 27 • Rill Architects • macOS • OnLand.info