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Anonymous
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This is a silly question but I can't find the answer so here it goes. What do the borders around the fill types mean. In the fill selection window I see yellow and pink borders. Whats the difference? Thanks, again.
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Aussie John
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I think I need my eyes tested - I dont see any pink or yellow borders
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__archiben
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i see no pink borders, however i believe that the yellow ones are something to do with the difference between bitmapped, vectorial and symbol fills . . . and possibly something to do with creating them yourself?

can't find a reference to it in the manual - is there anybody out there who does know?

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Djordje
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~/archiben wrote:
i see no pink borders, however i believe that the yellow ones are something to do with the difference between bitmapped, vectorial and symbol fills . . . and possibly something to do with creating them yourself?
Symbol and non symbol fills - whether you create them yourself or not.
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Anonymous
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I can see the pink & yellow borders. They are subtle, and something new. The pink are standard (procedural) fills the yellow are symbol (copy/paste) fills. It is a nice touch. I used to get tired of looking for where the alphabet started over to find the beginning of the symbol fills.
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Don't forget the grey ones at the top - AC's hardcoded fills. Of which there are far too many IMHO! Would be nice to turn some of these off as it makes trimming down your CAD template some what of a nightmare.

These aren't new BTW - they've been around for years! And as any good CAD manager knows, if you put a space before your fill name, your fills will jump to the top of each section, apart from the hard coded fills, where solid fill(s) will always be first. Nothing wrong with doing that! Composites of course are always at the bottom of the list, in a section all of their own (i.e. in the wall tool settings).

There is a similar separation with Line types too. You can see the greyed out line between each section. Little tips like this help make your AC use more efficient!

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
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On mine the Solid and Empty fills have no border (grey or otherwise). I don't use the GS mandated fills (like 2x4...). I dumped them when I first started using AC8 and keep fighting to prevent them infecting any new projects. I do use copies of the solid and empty fills for existing and new frame (cavity wall) construction and they pop right to the top of the list (where I want them anyway) with no special characters or anything.
Link
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner
Well, by grey I guess I meant no border. (As you most likely know), the copies of the Solid & Empty fills simply go to the top because when you paste them in they are just appended a new ID number and these 'hard coded, grey/borderless' fills are sorted by their ID numbers, as opposed to the other two varieties that are sorted by name. That's why I encourage the use of blank spaces before the name of ANY custom attribute. One blank space for an office standard and two for project specific. Too easy!

Don't you get tired of fighting the constant 'fill infiltration' battle, by dumping all these hard coded fills? I sure did. They are needed for so many things, (esp. in the Extras menu) that it proves to be more trouble than it's worth. Similar to deleting materials or changing pen 91. It may just be me, but I hate seeing the word MISSING appear randomly throughout a brand spankin' new CAD template! Doesn't do much to gain the confidence of new users either.

Anyway, I wish GS would (and I have asked them - for what it's worth!) to address the availability (and nuisance) of hard coded fills. Hopefully they will make them all (except Solid & Empty) appear invisible to the end user.

Just my two cents!

Cheers,
Link.
Anonymous
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Link,

I'm with you on everything but the leading spaces. Maybe it's just a matter of taste, but I don't like things sorted by characters I can't see. I use an exclamation point to bring mine to the top. Maybe it's just my enthusiastic nature.