GRID BUG ISSUE.....still no solution?

[rob2218]

see attached.
We have a 200MB Teamwork file in AC17. I've downloaded ALL the updates and STILL this "grid bug" issue is hindering production.

We simply "cant" continue to reupload and refresh the TW file with a new PLN each time the grids stop functioning???? GS please advise.

[rob2218]

Let me see if I can answer these questions.

I've tried to delete, unlock, ungroup, Ctrl-X, physically move, etc... the offending grids and NOTHING will allow me to remove them from the project. I can't delete them, move them, edit them, they are simply "greyed" out and have a status of "availble for reservation" YET...when I try to TO reserve them....NOTHING. I can't do ANYTHING to the offending grids.
This morning I had to RESHARE a 200MB PLN file back up t the server. it took me TWO HOURS of wasted time to do this BECAUSE these grids go bad.
Now....justifying this behaviour to my employer will get me fired......I CAN'T keep resharing the file and the time it will take to reshare EACH time the grids go bad will become longer and longer.

With regards to the question on "why does the grid change".....well, you'd have to understand the person I'm working for. Seems MICROCHANGES are occuring which are very fussy to deal with and each time something appears to be SET IN STONE....it's requested of me to CHANGE an element 2" to the left, 1-1/2" down, make the fonts, from a 5 to a 5.25 size...etc...so you need to be in my shoes with this particular client. He's very very fussy about how "things" need to look....which is why these changes are happening at this stage of the game.

Anyhow.....I've just RESHARED, once again....the PLN file. Let's see how long the "grids" behave this time.

laszlonagy wrote:

Steve wrote:
It could be a corrupt file. ? Is it possible that the horizontal and vertical grids are on different levels?

I was thinking the same thing.

Rob, maybe you could try deleting the misbehaving Grid Elements by CTRL-X (cutting them from the project) and then inserting them back again using CTRL-V.
If that doesn't solve it you could delete them and then recreate them.
Both of these suggestion are based on the assumption that these elements may be corrupt and that is what is causing these issues.

But let me ask you another question: why do you need to keep modifying those Grid Elements? I would think that Grid Elements are some of those elements in a Project that hardly ever change. They are created at the beginning of the Project, then normally they do not much change throughout the project (of course they might need to be changed once or twice, but if they keep getting changed that is too bad for the project as a whole).

[Eduardo Rolon]

Possible work around. Keep the grids on a separate module file?

[rob2218]

Yes, I am more and more considering this method.
Seems ridiculous to have to upload and entire 200MB BIM PLN file to share it onto a TW environment just because some grids are misbehaving.

The only thing is is that NOW if I remove those grid objects...there are dimensions that are tagged to those grids and, well, they will too disappear....and to keep track of where/when/which dims changed would be a horrible effort.

So....I'm hoping the "grid objects" stop offending.....or I'm going to have to start invoicing Graphisoft for time lost

ejrolon wrote:
Possible work around. Keep the grids on a separate module file?

[Steve Jepson]

Keep in mind Rob...the girds don't behave like that for the rest of us.
Also, to upload that for me would be 2 min. on a slow day.
And to download it would be around 13 seconds.
And I am not paying for the fastest internet connection available.
Get a faster internet connection?

May be it doesn't work that way. ?

1 MB = 8 Mbps

[rob2218]

Steve,
while I appreciate your commentaries......I've been with GS's best tech's on the horn numerous times about this "grid" issue and even THEY cant' seem to figure this one out.

With regards to 'your' files....well, they aren't the same files I'm using so we can't compare "bananas to grapefruits" can we.

I'm tellin' ya...I'd love nothing better than to have these grids be workign properly but they are simply NOT working as they should.

With regards to the internet speeds, well, my system is fast enough but you aren't aware of the all the nuance conditions that exist on this project and how it was initially setup (which was not the best way to set it up...but that's neither here nor there)....so I'm sure in your frame of reference...sure the grids are working because it's not the SAME TW file you are working on as I am.

thanks for your observations.

Steve wrote:
Keep in mind Rob...the girds don't behave like that for the rest of us.
Also, to upload that for me would be 2 min. on a slow day.
And to download it would be around 13 seconds.
And I am not paying for the fastest internet connection available.
Get a faster internet connection?

[rob2218]

I just did a speedtest on my machine....am I reading this right? Steve..your's says 109Mbps download? Mine is stating 15Mbps download? are these the same numbers here? Is my Mbps the same units as your Mbps?
I mean...sheesh...then you have a connection speed roughly 7X faster than what I have. your upload is what my download is....this can't be right...can it?

Steve wrote:
Keep in mind Rob...the girds don't behave like that for the rest of us.
Also, to upload that for me would be 2 min. on a slow day.
And to download it would be around 13 seconds.
And I am not paying for the fastest internet connection available.
Get a faster internet connection?

May be it doesn't work that way. ?

1 MB = 8 Mbps

[rob2218]

isn't there a difference between MBps and Mbps?
isn't one "megaBYTES" and the other "megabits"....aren't they two different amounts of data? At least thats' what I remember from BASIC programming in college....or am I missing somepin here?

[rob2218]

Not to get off subject but....I was right...there is a diff between MBps and Mbps.....Megabyte and Megabit...

MBps is an abbreviation for Megabytes per second, whereas Mbps is an abbreviation for megabits per second. Eight megabits equal one Megabyte. These abbreviations are commonly used to specify how much data can be transferred per second between two points. In some cases, mbps is used as an abbreviation for megabits per second; however, the lowercase m technically means "milli" not "mega," so it doesn't really mean the same thing.

[Steve Jepson]

Steve wrote:
Keep in mind Rob...the girds don't behave like that for the rest of us.
Also, to upload that for me would be 2 min. on a slow day.
And to download it would be around 13 seconds.
And I am not paying for the fastest internet connection available.
Get a faster internet connection?

May be it doesn't work that way. ?

1 MB = 8 Mbps

[Steve Jepson]

This is the same test you used. Yes, you are slower than molasses in January
And this is all wireless. I get a little faster connection with my computer plugged into the router.

I could get much faster but it costs more.