rob2218 wrote:Walls do have that flexibility. Having an option that allows the user to show a wall only in certain floors would probably create documentation issues, as in "why does this wall shows in floors 1, 3 and 5; but not 2 and 4?". How far have you played with all available FPCPS&Wall-FloorPlanDisplaySettings combinations? I find the settings quite logical.
humm...ok. fair nuff.
though..."walls" in general, you'd think would be the 'first' object type that would have the visual flexibility to be seen on "any" floor chosen by the user....other objects in the box do...why not walls.
Besides...the "viewmap cut plane" adjustability is, well, not that intuitive and I'm not the only one who thinks that either.
But I take your point.
Maybe it's too much to program a wall to be seen "where" the user wants/needs it to be seen.....but I hear what you are saying.sinceV6 wrote:
I'd say current display options are more than enough. Having another parameter to control walls' visibility would create more complexity rather than flexibility.
Oh... and a lot of the dudes behind programming are also architects and, as you may know, "traditional" documentation techniques are different from country to country. IMHO, GS has known how to solve the workflow part beautifully and maybe that's why AC has a lot of flexibility... for the most part that is.
Best regards.
If you need walls to show several stories above, in that wall just set:
Show on stories: all relevant stories
Floor plan display: as you need
Show projection: would depend on what you want to show in that specific plan view.
Then change the Relative Floor Plan Range options in FPCPS.
Say you are on level 2, you could set Relative Floor Plane Range in FPCPS to show down to 2 stories below, offset by 0. Your wall (in level 0) should be visible. If you set the show projection (in wall properties) to floor plan range, you would use the Floor Plane Range offset to limit the wall projection (it will ignore the Absolute Display Limit, but the offset would also limit the entire view); set it to Absolute Display Limit, and it will work the other way around, ignoring the offset and using the other value.
Changing to another story, would be...errr... another story
Display would be according to FPCPS but related to current story.All this is easier to understand if you create an inclined wall several stories below, set FPCPS to show down to that story, and set different offset values for Floor Plan Range and Absolute Display Limit; then play with the "Show projection" value in the wall. For very specific cases, there are other things that could be done to document what you need.
I would prefer that FPCPS could also be applied to the tools missing those options, such as slabs. Having the ability to view several stories down is not complete when only some elements are shown.
I think the the programming part is not the issue. I would certainly have some difficulty, but I think the bigger issue would be how to make it work with everything else and not create more BIM problems than it would solve.
Just my 2 cents.
Best regards.
thing is is that the FPCPS (I'm assuming you mean "Floor plan cut plane settings"..right?) is limited to a continuation ONLY horizontal cutplane.
Sometimes, walls in particular, need to be shown a certain way where they shouldn't be controlled ONLY by the cut plane rather but a toggle button IN the wall itself that says...just that...."Show on floors 3, 4, 5 ONLY".
that way the user has full control of where and when he shows WHAT walls and how....not by only being dictated by the cutplane plane.
How many times have you wanted to show elements that were in 1/2 stories or 2 or 3 stories below or above...well, plenty of times, yet a "walls" visual displays are governed by the cut plane setting INSIDE the viewmap...where the first line of adjustability should be INSIDE the wall parameter itself.
Just like the "walls" have the option to be shown in "cut only", "projection with overhead", etc.....they should be able to be "shown" in whatever story the user needs them to be.
just "my" 2 cents...and you know what they say about an opinion...."
Sometimes, walls in particular, need to be shown a certain way where they shouldn't be controlled ONLY by the cut plane rather but a toggle button IN the wall itself that says...just that...."Show on floors 3, 4, 5 ONLY".
that way the user has full control of where and when he shows WHAT walls and how....not by only being dictated by the cutplane plane.
How many times have you wanted to show elements that were in 1/2 stories or 2 or 3 stories below or above...well, plenty of times, yet a "walls" visual displays are governed by the cut plane setting INSIDE the viewmap...where the first line of adjustability should be INSIDE the wall parameter itself.
Just like the "walls" have the option to be shown in "cut only", "projection with overhead", etc.....they should be able to be "shown" in whatever story the user needs them to be.
just "my" 2 cents...and you know what they say about an opinion...."
This is a great discussion. Do you have any specific examples where you need this functionality? I just can't grasp the concept of a wall that only spans a certain amount of height of a story to be shown in an arbitrary number of views above (as in some you do, in some you don't)
If you ask me, I would change the whole paradigm. I wouldn't have stories as they exist right now (although the current workflow has proven quite useful from an organizational point of view); but I would rather have the building model as a whole and "model" the floor plane and cut plane (with any quirks and level differences it may have); kind of like the section tool, but in a horizontal plane.
But as it is right now (and it´s out of my hands to change it), I take what I have and make the best of it.
Best regards.
I think this is the best advise so far....i'll see what I can do.
sinceV6 wrote:
But as it is right now (and it´s out of my hands to change it), I take what I have and make the best of it.......
