How to deal with the phenomenon that appears on the lower structural wall?

[LeeJaeYoung]

How to deal with the phenomenon that appears on the lower structural wall?

4-story structure floor plan

3-story structure floor plan

3rd floor architectural floor plan

2. I would like to use the reference line of the wall as the basis for the area. I think it's a wrong idea to think that way, but what about other people's opinions?

[Barry Kelly]

I have no idea what you are asking here.

You can measure the area however you want, so long as you get the result you are after.

You can measure to the inside of the walls, the outside of the walls or the centre of the walls if you want.

All you need is a zone or a fill with the boundary in the correct location.

What are you measuring the area of, a single room, the whole building, part of a building?

Barry.

[LeeJaeYoung]

I found that the wrong phenomenon disappears when I move the base of the wall.
However, since the area of the zone was based on the wall, I asked the second question. I also found out that the direction of the door cannot be recognized unless it is based on the wall.
So I tried not to move the reference line of the wall, but this is a question that I thought was wrong.

May I ask for a review as my work goes hand in hand with the issues below?

A question about the GOC. - Graphisoft Community

I'm having a shaky concept of exactly how it works.

For me who is used to Autodesk, ArchiCAD seems complicated and takes a lot of time.

I don't think the word no exists in ArchiCAD, which is capable of 2D conversion editing. ^^

[Barry Kelly]

I still don't understand.

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@LeeJaeYoung wrote:

I found that the wrong phenomenon disappears when I move the base of the wall.

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What does this mean?

What phenomenon is disappearing?

And what do you mean by moving the base of the wall?

Moving the base height?

Otherwise moving anything else on the wall will move the position of the entire wall.

Or are you just trying to move the position of the reference line without moving the wall?

Barry.

[LeeJaeYoung]

What I can do to turn off the phenomenon on the lower wall is to change it from core center to core outside.

[Barry Kelly]

So you want to move the reference line without moving the wall?

If so then use the 'Modify wall reference line tool'.

Just changing the setting in the wall settings will move the wall and keep the reference line where is was.

This will keep the wall where it is and move the reference line.

Barry.

[LeeJaeYoung]

I find the language really difficult.
So I thank you for bringing me here.^^

The technical question refers to a problem that does not appear to be a problem with the walls on the current floor, but when viewed from above.
To solve this, a situation arises of shifting the baseline.
This is what happened when I had to change my thinking about the zone area I was building. To secure this, you can replace LINE etc. with borders. I made the boundary of the zone only with the line with the judgment that making the zone with the wall line and the line as a boundary can cause many mistakes in my opinion. But this time the location of the doors and windows caused a problem.

1. Is it correct to obtain the real name and area at once with zone?
2. How should I make the area?
3. How do you handle the lower part in the structural floor plan?
If possible, I would appreciate it if you could show me the drawing. ^^

[Barry Kelly]

The problem is not just language, but also that we do not have the model you are working on.

We do not know how you are working on it and how you have it set up or what you are actually trying to achieve.

In the type of work I do (residential housing), I do not use zones for areas - I use fills and schedule those.

But you can schedule zones and get their names and areas.

I don't need to do structural drawings - so I am not sure what you mean by 'lower part'.

If you mean separate walls for foundations, some model these on a separate storey and some (myself anyway) use a separate layer so I don't have to deal with additional storeys.

So if you have a question about how to use a certain tool, or where to find a setting, that can be explained quite easily.

But when you are talking about how to model something that we don't have in front of us, that is much more difficult.

I can't remember what you said about support from your local distributor.

Have you tried getting any help from them?

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I'll do my best to help, but it is really hard when I don't grasp what you are trying to do.

Barry.

[ryejuan]

I will try to guess -  in your floor plan display change to be shown to home storey only instead of relevant stories. I think that wall of yours is either very tall or elevated up to that storey that's why its being shown in the plan. If you want to reference it from below you can always use the trace and reference function of Archicad. Hope this helps. 😎

[LeeJaeYoung]

in revit

If you do home storey only, you cannot express the lower wall in the structural drawing.
In Revit, the wall column beams are hidden when switching to the structural drawing as shown in the image above. By the way, archicad has options for columns and beams.
However, there are no options for walls.
Then there should be something, but it's not even in the GOC.
There is only an ignorant way to designate each floor.
(Now I'm judging that this is the correct answer. ^^)
Is there a way to treat the lower wall?