My First Reall Wall Non-Cleanup Concern

[Anonymous]

H'lo...
My corner...just this one...is refusing to clean-up..the walls are the same wall, really, and they used to clean up so I don't know what gives. If I apple-I (intersect, right) them, one just LAPS over the other; if I alter the display order, the lapping changes. The only maybe-clue I have is that one of the walls gets three pink edit-dots when I select it, and the other gets but two--perhaps indicative of some other difference? I dunno...quite weird...many thanks, as always, for troubleshooting hints...

[Anonymous]

ref lines. Looks good to me...? Perhaps I should just delete these bits and redo them? Does this appear to be a bug?
thanks again.

[Anonymous]

I've ran into this problem before, and I'm not sure if it will work for you, but what I did was extend one wall (in your case probably the bottom wall) beyond the other wall, and then trim it back with control click.

HTH,
dan

[Anonymous]

Dan,
Thanks--that trick did MORE than other things I have tried, but not quite enough...see attached...I also tried extending the other wall and trimming it, and then extending the first and so on, but none of that seemed to help. I think it particularly odd that ONLY this wall does it, in the model. Not sure what is up with it, at all. Further advice is most certainly welcome.
Thanks!

[Anonymous]

and, whoops, the image.

[Richard Morrison]

A few things to check:

1) Wall end lines. Try a different one (like the closed end) to see if this has an effect.

2) Check for another object or wall element that is touching or overlapping this wall at this location; may be on a hidden layer or different story.

3) Flip one of the reference lines (i.e."invert all sides" command), if possible, and reconnect.

4) Last resort, use a patch.

[Dwight]

it looks like a tiny bit of wall stuck on the end......
probably an extra bit in there to confuse the clean-up

[TomWaltz]

Also check to make sure there are no walls on Hidden Layers that are trying to clean up with it.

[Karl Ottenstein]

This looks like a wall on a footing? If so, the reference lines should be made to 'match', typically, putting the reference line to the exterior... but in any case, they should both be inside the corner or both outside in this situation IMHO.

Remember that walls in AC are in some sense thickened lines. The reference line is the only aspect of the wall that is 'locked' in x/y space. If you change a wall thickness, it grows from the line. (Modify Wall and ref line offset provide other options of course.) So, when modeling a stem wall (which this seems to be - but small footing, so I'm probably guessing wrong), you want the bearing point for the wall/structure above to remain fixed - hence the reference line to the outside. (Logs are another matter.)

I suspect that the footing (?) - the dashed wall below - is the same intersection priority as your red walls. This can cause intersection problems such as you illustrate, too.

I actually find display glitches like those that you see helpful: they suggest to me that my model is not right. 😉

(And, as Tom says: check for walls on hidden layers with the same intersection priority ... these kinds of issues happen in remodel projects where the demo walls are hidden but the intersection priority hasn't been set properly for the view.)

HTH,
Karl

[Dwight]

Drawing excessive extra wall bits is a common error when using the continuous segment wall option in the wall tool.

Just move your cursor a bit and make a faulty click - you get another bit of wall there...... it could even be inside the correct walls.

Select all walls and look for stray control nodes...... that's the ticket.

[Anonymous]

Karl wrote:
This looks like a wall on a footing? If so, the reference lines should be made to 'match', typically, putting the reference line to the exterior... but in any case, they should both be inside the corner or both outside in this situation IMHO.

Thank you ALL for those great suggestions! I methodically went through em, and discovered that everyone who suspected interference were correct. I quoted Karl here because it mentions the footing...my "footing" is actually a wall, as I wanted it to appear differently in elevation and in plan, and it was interfering with the stemwall, above...not because of superimposition in e-space, but because of something to do with the location of the reference line it was keyed to. That is, even though all of the reference lines for the stem wall were inside the corner, the position of the reference lines for the footing were inconsistent-inside the corner, then outside the corner. Being consistent in the placement of the ref lines in relation to the corner solved the problem.
THANK YOU.