!Restored: ¿News about AC 12?

[Anonymous]

Hi all!


¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?


I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...


Thanks a lot and regards.



P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."

[Eduardo Rolon]

Ledbetter, wrote:

Karl wrote:
So, a Texas reseller might have been booted? And unauthorized information on web sites was taken down. How is this wrong or unusual?

Gee, how nice for you that you can have such a cavalier attitude...

Ok then,

- If I have a contract with your office and it stipulates that I cannot show or talk about it (NDA).

- One of your bosses talks to somebody about part of the project publicly.

- That means that my NDA is broken, I can post the information to my website, tell other clients all about it and you will do nothing about it?

[Anonymous]

ejrolon wrote:

Ledbetter, wrote:

Karl wrote:
So, a Texas reseller might have been booted? And unauthorized information on web sites was taken down. How is this wrong or unusual?

Gee, how nice for you that you can have such a cavalier attitude...

Ok then,

- If I have a contract with your office and it stipulates that I cannot show or talk about it (NDA).

- One of your bosses talks to somebody about part of the project publicly.

- That means that my NDA is broken, I can post the information to my website, tell other clients all about it and you will do nothing about it?

My intended point (apparently it wasn't clear) was that the "booting" of this Texas reseller is heavy-handed and unfounded, IMO, because nothing was truly "disclosed"...THAT is how its wrong.
So everybody in this thread that is continuing to think that some sort of advocacy for breaking NDA's is being championed needs to exit stage left...it ISN'T!

The whole idea was to create BUZZ.
WHY?...because logic tells a thinking person that SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT before this incredible program withers on the vine of anonymity under the unbearable heat of the Autodesk sun.
(Ok, that's a bit wordy and even blowhardy, but I like metaphors.)
I had never even heard of ArchiCAD until the day I contacted my reseller to purchase Artlantis...so, yes, anonymity.
We wound up buying one seat of AC8 (ouch, and its the reason we never switched the whole office over besides the cost) and I have kept up with subsequent releases on my own dime.

Every applicant I have interviewed in the past 2 years is at least moderately aware of, or even has some experience with Revit...ArchiCAD?
Not so much..."What is that?" or, "Never heard of it."
One had actually used it and maybe two others had ever heard of it.
And were headed into the so-called "BIM" era!

I'd like to know what this marketing strategy that Graphisoft uses is called...there has to be a term for it. Seriously...what is it?
What is the logic...I just want someone to explain to me in laymans terms what the tangible benefits are?
Instead of positive buzz...I sense most users have their hands over their eyes peeking thru some fingers waiting for the train wreck.

BTW, this isn't hate mail...I just felt the need to express my annoyance.
Done.
I'll move on now.
Your welcome...in advance.

[TomWaltz]

Ledbetter, wrote:
My intended point (apparently it wasn't clear) was that the "booting" of this Texas reseller is heavy-handed and unfounded, IMO, because nothing was truly "disclosed"...THAT is how its wrong.

"Telling" someone is disclosing. It doesn't have to be in writing.

Someone signed a contract not to let the word out. They let the word out, so they are in breech of contract. They are lucky just to be fired. They could get sued as well.

[Anonymous]

TomWaltz wrote:

Ledbetter, wrote:
My intended point (apparently it wasn't clear) was that the "booting" of this Texas reseller is heavy-handed and unfounded, IMO, because nothing was truly "disclosed"...THAT is how its wrong.

"Telling" someone is disclosing. It doesn't have to be in writing.

Someone signed a contract not to let the word out. They let the word out, so they are in breech of contract. They are lucky just to be fired. They could get sued as well.

...nothing was told, nothing was disclosed..."implied" or even "hinted" is neither of those.

[Stress Co_]

Ledbetter, wrote:
so is your reseller going to get canned by Graphisoft for divulging sacred secrets like mine was for posting a stupid video that told nothing of new features but was considered a breach of the "non-disclosure agreement"?

Was he "canned" for THIS? (the video has been removed).

[Anonymous]

Stress wrote:
Was he "canned" for THIS? (the video has been removed).

Yep...

[Karl Ottenstein]

Ledbetter, wrote:

Stress wrote:
Was he "canned" for THIS? (the video has been removed).

Yep...

If that's the case, then I don't understand... that video had nothing to do with AC 12.... so how could it violate any contract? Weird.

Karl

[TomWaltz]

Ledbetter, wrote:

Stress wrote:
Was he "canned" for THIS? (the video has been removed).

Yep...

OK, then that is weird.

[Brett Brown]

Obviously Graphisoft haven't a sense of humour, and the one person in the marketing department hasn't anything better to do.

[__archiben]

Brett wrote:
Obviously Graphisoft haven't a sense of humour, and the one person in the marketing department hasn't anything better to do.

there is a person in the marketing department? then he must be busy running the company or something . . .