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!Restored: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous
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Hi all!


¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?


I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...


Thanks a lot and regards.



P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."
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Anonymous
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Oldies but Goldies.

http://www.archicadwiki.com/ArchiCAD_versions?highlight=%28versions%29%7C%28archicad%29

Missing in the list of Features, ArchiCAD 8 (2002) : Graphical Hotspots.
IMO, it was a major improvement.

Anyone who used AC 2.0?
Anonymous
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First Windows version was 4.12
Anonymous
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Dwight, we both know you are right... in reality the train left the station a while ago. (Keeping up rail analogies)!

BTW I know your interest is rendering but you might like to look at this blog (not just "this" post) - interesting stuff...http://designreform.net/2008/05/15/revit-parametric-truss-system/
Anonymous
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Watching the video made me "sad"

3d Drawing.
Constrains
Parameters.

You cannot do such things in archicad (ok you can do some of these using tones of GDL that practically means you cannot do it)
Anonymous
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I know Revit does seem quite a bit more advanced when it comes to paramatising objects - ArchiCAD is a bit archaic and once you've made an array or something its a question of starting from scratch if you need to change it. I mean we can't even multiply along a spline never mind making it instantly parametric! I think archicad has a lot to learn from revit with this kind of thing. Hopefully v.12 will move along these lines.

For me ArchiCAD really needs to break free of its regimented use of objects - and make GDL or a new type of paramatising easier for the user to set up on the fly. It also needs to allow flexible rotation of any object along the Z-axis so users can be more creative. Plugins like Objective are great but you are limited to Objective created parts only which can become frustrating when you just want to get in there and rotate a wall or something without having to create a new library part. Objective also has it's limitations like not allowing multiple materials on one object etc. but I guess here isn't the place to start on that! Making multiple copies of an object in elevation would also be nice and I can't see why it's not already there!

i just use archicad for modelling for arch vis and I wish it had a more flexible toolset sometimes but I know it wasn't really designed for that.

Anyway sorry for the OT rant just hope Archicad 12 has some really big new features on the modelling front!
Ralph Wessel
Mentor
rob wrote:
Plugins like Objective are great but you are limited to Objective created parts only which can become frustrating when you just want to get in there and rotate a wall or something without having to create a new library part. Objective also has it's limitations like not allowing multiple materials on one object etc. but I guess here isn't the place to start on that! Making multiple copies of an object in elevation would also be nice and I can't see why it's not already there!
OBJECTiVE can work on any GDL object with a 3D body, not just the parts created by it. It also supports multiple materials in the object, although the profiling tools construct single-material objects (this will change in future). If you wanted to rotate something like a wall, save it as a GDL object and OBJECTiVE can do the rest (refer to the attached image of a rotated/split object created from a wall)

We're working on some of your other wishes too...
Ralph Wessel BArch
Active Thread Ltd
Anonymous
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In the above video, nothing of what shown can be done in Archicad.
Not even drawing in 3D
John Dunham
Participant
This was in the latest AEC Bytes article about Graphisoft at the AIA Convention:

"Graphisoft used the AIA show to preview some of the new features in the next release of ArchiCAD, version 12, which will be reviewed in AECbytes after its release next month. Graphisoft also used the opportunity to promote its new offering, ArchiCAD START Edition, which is a trimmed down version of ArchiCAD with a feature set and price tailored to the needs of small architectural practices, home builders, and contractors. It costs $1,995, which is less than half the price of a regular BIM application, and Graphisoft hopes that it encourages more firms to be able to make the move to BIM. It includes all the design, documentation, and interoperability features of ArchiCAD; what it is missing are the group collaboration features that are mostly needed by larger firms. ArchiCAD START is certainly a good idea, and if the response to it from the industry is encouraging, it might prompt competing vendors such as Autodesk and Bentley to also think about offering less expensive versions of their products for smaller firms. Graphisoft was also giving away its free interactive BIM Experience Kit, which comes with a 30-day full version of ArchiCAD, and provides interactive learning on BIM using exercises based upon an actual project, the Frank Lloyd Wright designed Massaro House. (For more details on the BIM Experience Kit, see this AECbytes Tips and Tricks article.)"

That's it!!!!
John

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Anonymous
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John wrote:
This was in the latest AEC Bytes article about Graphisoft at the AIA Convention:

"Graphisoft used the AIA show to preview some of the new features in the next release of ArchiCAD, version 12, ...
So is anyone allowed to say what the new features are yet?
Anonymous
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John wrote:
This was in the latest AEC Bytes article about Graphisoft at the AIA Convention:

"...... Graphisoft also used the opportunity to promote its new offering, ArchiCAD START Edition, which is a trimmed down version of ArchiCAD with a feature set and price tailored to the needs of small architectural practices, home builders, and contractors. It costs $1,995, which is less than half the price of a regular BIM application, and Graphisoft hopes that it encourages more firms to be able to make the move to BIM. It includes all the design, documentation, and interoperability features of ArchiCAD; what it is missing are the group collaboration features that are mostly needed by larger firms. ........
That's it!!!!
Does anyone use the start edition? As a single person firm at the moment, I'd love the option of a less expensive archicad but it seems unusable in practice. I could do without teamwork, reviewer, markup tools, even sun shading, interior elevation, and align view. I could probably give up slanted walls beams and columns. But the lack of xrefs, external drawings, or hot linked modules (even having just one of those would be better), as well as worksheets, profiles, or publisher seems to me to seriously diminish it's usability. It also can't open full archicad files so there's no going back and forth.