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[Anonymous]

I saw some documents to compare between Revit and AC.
I study Revit from own website.
It is just copy from AC!!

I used to work with AC (and very satisfied, and like many friends from AC-forum).
As AC-user I hope, AC must be better than Revit for Architects.

I have not used Revit, but just seen from Website.
The web-site from Revit is so nice, that I must believe, Revit should be better than AC.

I like to know your opinions and also opinions from GS.

Thanks

[Chazz]

samsung wrote:
Did you make bad experiance with AC?
I have personally nice time with AC, during others had to fight with AutoCAD.....

I've used ArchiCAD for 14 years. Back then Architrion (a French 3d tool) was arguably better but it was clear AC had the momentum. Now Architrion is long dead.

These days AC still looks better than Revit in many respects but you would have a hard time arguing that Revit is not the more aggressive, focused and competent competitor. Revit has the momentum and judging from the last several releases, they will soon surpass Archicad in the BIM space. Give it another two upgrade cycles.

As I have said before, this is very much like Quark Vs InDesign a few years ago. If you are paying attention, the writing is very clearly on the wall.

[Anonymous]

Chazz wrote:
........... the writing is very clearly on the wall.

These thoughts are driving me crazy

[Chazz]

Joseph wrote:
30" HD Cinema Display & ATI XT800XT Mac Edition

That's what's driving me crazy.

[Dwight]

What pleases more?
What makes more architecture?
One big one or two smaller ones?

It's a dilemma.

[Anonymous]

@Dwight

What is better for rendering? AC or revit...


http://www.graphisoft-muenchen.de/buchtipp-lightworks-in-archicad-von-dwight-atkinson_tipp_2463.html


from book by Dwight

[Dwight]

Revit's internal rendering engine seems rather poor - comparable to the ArchiCAD Internal engine - from what I see on:

http://aec.cadalyst.com/aec/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=123082

and

http://www.revitcity.com/search.php?user_name_search=Mr%20Spot&action=searchforum


But it can export to VIZ:

http://www.caduser.com/reviews/reviews.asp?a_id=230

This makes it potentially a better file flow to a superior rendering engine to the current and in ArchiCAD 10 implementation of the LightWorks Engine.

[Scott Davis]

Dwight wrote:
Revit's internal rendering engine seems rather poor - comparable to the ArchiCAD Internal engine - from what I see on:

http://aec.cadalyst.com/aec/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=123082

and

http://www.revitcity.com/search.php?user_name_search=Mr%20Spot&action=searchforum


But it can export to VIZ:

http://www.caduser.com/reviews/reviews.asp?a_id=230

This makes it potentially a better file flow to a superior rendering engine to the current and in ArchiCAD 10 implementation of the LightWorks Engine.

The material library that ships with Revit for it's Accurender engine is horrible. Renderings done with the 'stock" rendering materials look cartoonish. If one were to take time in Accurender to produce new materials, or modify the OOTB materials, then some really nice images can be created. Most of the stuff on RevitCity and other websites is done by people that do not take the time to do the necessary up front work. So its not really the Engine so much as it is the materials used that create not-so-good renderings.

Furthermore, Accurender is relatively slow. We have been exporting Revit models to DWG for use in Viz, and rendering with Vray and Maxwell with some nice results.

I hear Lightworks materials are really nice straight out of the box, which will help produce good renderings for everyone.

[TomWaltz]

Scott wrote:
I hear Lightworks materials are really nice straight out of the box, which will help produce good renderings for everyone.

They are actually not that bad. Yes, they could be better, but they give a decent broad-brush palette to start with.

[Anonymous]

Revit reminds me of AC 6.5.

Revit is surely differnt concept from AutoCAD.
That means, the developement of Revit will go in the direction of Auto CAD concept.
Revit was quite unknown in europe.
Since Revit belongs to AutoCAD they are talking about Revit.

It is to consider to change just for AutoCAD user but not for AC users.

[Chazz]

Dwight wrote:
What pleases more? What makes more architecture? One big one or two smaller ones? It's a dilemma.

Of course it's only a dilemma of cost, not technology. I think two 30" displays is the way to go. Still, even the 2 lovely dell 20 inchers I have are great and it makes it hard to use my 15" laptop. I did not get the dell's at the same time and my productivity went way up when the second unit arrived. In terms of productivity/$, more monitor is perhaps the best buy around.

(Gosh, this post sounds neither nattering nor particularly negative. I'm gonna stop here)