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[Anonymous]

Maybe,is better 2d drawing in archicad,because you dont need to redrawing for 3d, but i insist, that ONLY for 2d drawing face of the project,autocad is faster,even for a non expert user.Simple interface ,basics commants for 2d.
In the 3D-modeling stage, it is sure that Archicad is the king.


Anyway,it is just an opinion.

[Anonymous]

OK I should have said it depends what you're doing.

For generating a plan, i.e. drawing walls, placing doors and windows, jumping up to the next storey and back down again, there's nothing to beat Archicad.

But it's when you go on to the next level of detail, filling in the dpcs, the cavity closers, the lines of services, dotted lines to indicate something happening above, or below - all the real construction stuff. That's when it gets much slower.

Try this - a site layout: in Autocad, draw the centre line of a road, and another centre line meeting it at an angle. Now offset the kerb lines, and fillet the radii at the junctions. Join the lines up as polylines. Now offset the footpaths. Takes a couple of minutes. Now try it in Archicad. Of course all suggestions will be very welcome!

KEITH

[Eduardo Rolon]

Keith wrote:
Try this - a site layout: in Autocad, draw the centre line of a road, and another centre line meeting it at an angle.

Same procedure in AC and do ->edit ->fillet

Keith wrote:
Join the lines up as polylines.

Not necessary in AC if you used the polyline tool first which you can fillet once it is drawn

Keith wrote:
Now offset the footpaths.

1) select the Polyline tool
2) select the multiple offset tool
3) activate the magic wand
4) offset to your liking

Keith wrote:
Takes a couple of minutes. Now try it in Archicad.

takes a couple of seconds… because in AutoCAD you cannot change the Offset distance once selected and with the Multiple Offset in AC you can.

[TomWaltz]

ejrolon wrote:
takes a couple of seconds… because in AutoCAD you cannot change the Offset distance once selected and with the Multiple Offset in AC you can.

I was thinking all the same things as ejrolon. This sounds like a pretty trivial task in Archicad. Offsets are really easy to do (though they are tricky to learn).

As I often joke, if it's so hard to do, I should tell my staff to stop doing it so easily.

[Anonymous]

TomWaltz wrote:

ejrolon wrote:
takes a couple of seconds… because in AutoCAD you cannot change the Offset distance once selected and with the Multiple Offset in AC you can.

I was thinking all the same things as ejrolon. This sounds like a pretty trivial task in Archicad. Offsets are really easy to do (though they are tricky to learn).

Me too. Only I followed the instruction a little more closely and started with the roadway centerlines as follows:

1. Select Line tool <L> (<> = keyboard input, capitals for clarity)
2. Centerlines crossing at intersection; click, click, click, click.
3. Edge of road: Offset tool <O>, spacebar click, <R>, <12'>
4. Select lines: click, click
5. Curb radius: Click corner (mouse down), pet palette - fillet (mouse up), <24'>
6. <esc> to deselect
7. Curb: Offset tool <O>, spacebar click, <R>, <6">

I used the line tool, but the polyline works about the same.

I didn't use a stopwatch but it definitely took less than 10 seconds (I estimate about 5-6 with no mistakes) assuming no design time of course (which could be hours of meetings and has nothing to do with software ).

In a few minutes I could add the site model with contours (assuming that I have a good survey to trace).

[Djordje]

Keith wrote:
But it's when you go on to the next level of detail, filling in the dpcs, the cavity closers, the lines of services, dotted lines to indicate something happening above, or below - all the real construction stuff. That's when it gets much slower.KEITH

Not.

Because you DON'T HAVE TO draft it (dotted lines, cavity closers ...) It comes with the placed elements (see one storey below, window/door parameters) and is editable on the fly.

The main problem is always between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.

[Rakela Raul]

why should i buy ac to work 2d in the first place? it is a waste of software

[Laura Yanoviak]

...like all of those seats of ADT that are used soley for 2D drafting?

I was an AutoCAD user since '89 (Release 10). I used ArchiCAD for a couple of years back in '92 and '93, and have been back with ArchiCAD for the past year -- ArchiCAD 2D is superior to AutoCAD, you just have to become aquainted with the right tools (and it doesn't crash 2-3 times a day, which is the anticipated norm for AutoCAD)...

[Eduardo Rolon]

Rakela wrote:
why should i buy ac to work 2d in the first place? it is a waste of software

because Keith started it…

[Anonymous]

Hi all !

I need some help.

Next week, I have to give a presentation on ArchiCAD to a group of classmates (a territory that I have no idea; I didn't choose the topic). And I need to know 5 important reasons or benefits that will convince the class that ArchiCAD is the right tool for designing a cup to a home/room (for example).

From 1 to 5 how many stars will all of you give ArchiCAD compared to AutoCAD and some other CAD software ?

What are some important reasons or benefits of ArchiCAD ?

If I pass the assignment, I pay the beer...

In advance thanks for your time, and may God bless you all

[Anonymous]

This is what I tell my architect student's, when they come up with the "We learn 3D AC here but we will be employed by FlatCad offices, and have never learned to master AutoCad." (big question):

What you learn in ArchiCAD is to ride a bicycle. Master all the stunts (don´t know their name in english, sorry), till you do it automatically. You ride a bicycle, so you get there much faster.

Now 2d drafting in ArchiCAD is like using the bell in the bicycle. Some people use it a lot, others use it less, and some don't need it at all, because they are such expert riders. It is not essential to bicycle riding, but you are free to do it, and it does not take a big investment to learn how to.

If you get to a point that you have to migrate to FlatCad, and this FlatCad has a different interface, maybe (maybe) more streamlined and with more functions, you do not have to learn to ride a different bicycle, or a different vehicle. You are on foot again, walking slowly, and have a nice bell that also wisles.

Thus, learning to use this new bell will take you just a moment, because you already know how to use A bicycle bell, and after all, it is not that hard to master, for one who can do all those stunts with a bicycle.

Of course, there you will be, with a fancy bell in your hand, watching your former colleges wizzing by on their bikes...

Oh, one more thing

Keith wrote:
Left hand stays on the keyboard (no 'control' keys required), right hand on the mouse, mouse never strays from the drawing.

This is also doable with ArchCAD. Since version 9 (I think) you can program (and save) your keyboard shortcuts with only one key, no 'control' required.

Have fun (riding you bike or ringing your bell, whatever tickles you