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The Classical Orders

Erich
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What is the best method, short of GDL - I'm not there...yet, to model a classical column? Say something simple like a tuscan column with a plinth. Looking through the tools available it seems the best option would be to use Profiler. But perhaps someone has a better method or there is something I am missing?

Mathew, doing a search for this subjet I see you mentioning the classical orders a couple of times. What do you do?

It is a shame that the column object that ships with AC is so woefully incorrect. It would be great if it were accurate and could be defined by column diameter which would then set all other attributes.
Erich

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Anonymous
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Thomas wrote:
The D3 smart parts Trim library contains some customizable columns and caps that look quite good, with entasis and all. (but I'm no expert).
http://www.ddgi.com/object_shop/d3sp-shop01-libs-tr.html
Yup, Niel's stuff is probably the best out there (I probably should have mentioned that myself) but I still found it impossible to adjust them precisely for particular orders. Part of the problem of course is that there are no hard and fast rules about the proportions. Beyond the basic five classical orders (of which there are many variations in Greek and Roman examples) there variations by Vitruvius, Scomozzi, Bramante, in the renaissance to Robert Adam, Robert Orr and others today.

If anybody is interested, a good reference to the orders is available for free download from google at:

The Study of the Orders
Erich
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Mathew & Thomas,

While I know about the D3 columns, I had not seen one closely enough to tell how good they are, Many things look quite nice when seen small but can prove otherwise. It sounds as though they are reasonably correct which is good.

Since the D3 parts are not part of AC are there file management issues beyond general library management? If one does not have the D3 parts will they show up in a file or do you just get a dot?
Erich

AC 19 6006 & AC 20
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Anonymous
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Erich wrote:
Mathew & Thomas,

While I know about the D3 columns, I had not seen one closely enough to tell how good they are, Many things look quite nice when seen small but can prove otherwise. It sounds as though they are reasonably correct which is good.

Since the D3 parts are not part of AC are there file management issues beyond general library management? If one does not have the D3 parts will they show up in a file or do you just get a dot?
The usual management issues apply. If you don't have the library all you get is the dot.
Thomas Holm
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Matthew wrote:
Beyond the basic five classical orders (of which there are many variations in Greek and Roman examples) there variations by Vitruvius, Scomozzi, Bramante, in the renaissance to Robert Adam, Robert Orr and others today.
And not the least important: Palladio!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Palladio
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Anonymous
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Thomas wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Beyond the basic five classical orders (of which there are many variations in Greek and Roman examples) there variations by Vitruvius, Scomozzi, Bramante, in the renaissance to Robert Adam, Robert Orr and others today.
And not the least important: Palladio!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Palladio
Well, yeah, you've got me there. And then there's that Michelangelo guy...but then he didn't write the books (or any?).
Anonymous
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Hello, everyone.
Erich wrote:
Also, in AC 11 in the US library at least, there is only a Doric option.
In all libraries is "Column Architectural". Column contains different order. "Tuscan", "Doric", "Ionic" user accessible. "Corinthian" and "Composite" hidden from the user.
Find lines in a Parameters script:
values "ctyp" `Tuscan`,`Doric`,`Ionic`
!!!values "ctyp" `Tuscan`,`Doric`,`Ionic`,`Corinthian`,`Composite`
Rewrite them as follows:
!!!values "ctyp" `Tuscan`,`Doric`,`Ionic`
values "ctyp" `Tuscan`,`Doric`,`Ionic`,`Corinthian`,`Composite`

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Erich
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Valery,

Thanks for the heads up on the presence of the other capitals.

I am finding that the column object is a bit buggy but perhaps I can clean the script up once I learn a bit more GDL.
Erich

AC 19 6006 & AC 20
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