Walls in an angle

[Anonymous]

Hello

Lots of Utility Buildings nowadays have constructional facades and are positioned in an angle.
If I want to use the tools, a roof for the wall, I get in trouble with the window frame in it. Another thing is when the roof is negatively placed, overhanging; making correct joints on the top and bottom is time consuming bussiness...The real problem comes up when I want to insert windows/doors. The don't respond in rooftool-items. So I have to save doors and windows as objects, go into the object and rotate it in the angle of the roof. Then the frame has to be placed in the created hole of the roof with all problems of getting it right...pfff...
Doesn't anybody misses the right tool, eg a angled walltool, with ArchiCAD doing the work instead of me?

Of course I can make an object for this wall in an angle but object making is time consuming and doesn't have the ArchICAD simplicity Tools have...

[Anonymous]

Vincent

All you need to do is draw a wall using the regular wall tool, select it and click on Extras/accesories/wall extras. Set your wall angle and height etc, and enter. You have an editable canted wall.

[Anonymous]

Okay,

but this tool actually just places an an object in front of the wall; I don't want the original wall stil be there. I want a tilted wall. When I throw away the vertical original wall I throw away also the angled object.
Second,
The placed window only generates a hole in the placed object; also I just want to place frames in tilted walls.

I'm very glad that you took time answering my question but am I missing something or is my question actually a plain wish for GS?

[Anonymous]

It is a wish list item, AFAIK.

I don't recall if it's already been posted. You could search if you like, or just start a new one.

[Karl Ottenstein]

Vincent wrote:
The placed window only generates a hole in the placed object; also I just want to place frames in tilted walls.I'm very glad that you took time answering my question but am I missing something or is my question actually a plain wish for GS?

It is a wish ... but the object-making workaround isn't so bad unless you do these kinds of walls in all of your designs. Draw your wall including all windows with the wall tool along the X axis (for example). Save it as a module so you have the original parts available for future editing and re-saving. Save the wall as a GDL object. Add a ROTX command into the script using a fresh angle parameter and you can then rotate the wall/window assembly as needed. All of this takes less than a minute once you're used to it. (The most time-consuming part would be editing the 2D symbol to reflect how you want the wall to appear in plan.) If the canted wall needs to be trimmed with other walls, use solid element ops.

Karl

[Djordje]

Vincent wrote:
but this tool actually just places an an object in front of the wall; I don't want the original wall stil be there. I want a tilted wall. When I throw away the vertical original wall I throw away also the angled object.

If this is the only problem, try ArchiWall by Cigraph.

Vincent wrote:
Second, The placed window only generates a hole in the placed object; also I just want to place frames in tilted walls.

I suppose the frames have to follow the tilt of the wall, right?

Vincent wrote:
I'm very glad that you took time answering my question but am I missing something or is my question actually a plain wish for GS?

No wish from a user is or should be "plain". Take alook at the wishlist forum - if no tilted walls are there, please do post your wish, or reinforce the case for the existing one!

[Anonymous]

Karl Ottenstein wrote:
"Add a ROTX command into the script using a fresh angle parameter and you can then rotate the wall/window assembly as needed."

Would it not work better to use XFORM rather than ROTX as this transformation would shear both the wall and the window?

I am not sure about this but Karl would know.
I believe he was the one who wrote that excellent library part
that explained and demonstrated XFORM.

Just wondering,
Peter Devlin

[Karl Ottenstein]

Peter wrote:
Karl Ottenstein wrote:
"Add a ROTX command into the script using a fresh angle parameter and you can then rotate the wall/window assembly as needed."

Would it not work better to use XFORM rather than ROTX as this transformation would shear both the wall and the window?

I am not sure about this but Karl would know.
I believe he was the one who wrote that excellent library part
that explained and demonstrated XFORM.

Just wondering,
Peter Devlin

Thanks, Peter. XFORM would be better, especially if one wants the sills to be parallel to the ground. 😉 I was suggesting ROTX since it is so simple and something that everyone should know how to do.

I actually have a new little part called Skewer that I wrote for a contribution to David's in-progress GDL Cookbook 4 to explain and demonstrate XFORM. It lets you parametrically skew another library part in any and all axes. Everyone who gets the CB4 will get a copy. If ROTX doesn't give the result that Vincent needs, I'll ask David if he minds if I pre-release Skewer here. 😉

Karl

[Anonymous]

:oops: could you explain what is ROTX, and XFORM? :oops:
I have some problem to build a wall in angle.

[Anonymous]

Hello Karl ,
Thanks for the reply.
I just tried XFORM on an autoscripted wall with a window in it from
the floor plan.
It worked fine, and to make the plan symbol look correct,
I wrote a project2 command and an END statement in the
very beginning of the 2D script, and wrote the following in the 3D script:
if glob_context=2 then
pen 3 !same pen as the wall floor plan pen
addz 4'-0"
cutplane
del 1
endif
Oddly I don't get an error when I don't issue a cutend???
Thanks for your excellent explanatory library part,
Peter