Matthew wrote:Here's a picture of the roof issue regarding different thickness at the base.
It would be easier to respond if you were to post pictures of the problems
The picture also show part of the wall issue, where the lower section of the wall used to have vertical boards, similar to the horizontal ones above, but as you can see, now it is only a solid surface. In 3D view they appear with double spacing and in layout drawing just like on this elevation. When this problem suddenly occured getting the drawings in b&w became secondary.
I have in no way expected to master AC in a week, but I would have expected to be able to finish off a very simple project of a building with a slab, four walls, a roof and some doors and windows.
Thomas,
Have you gone through the Interactive Training Guides (ITGs) yet? While they will take several days to go through, they do a good job of teaching you the basics of ArchiCAD, and help clarify the logic behind the process which is substantially different to other 'CAD' programs.
Are there any experienced users nearby to you? Sitting down with them for a few hours will teach you more than you would ever learn by trial and error in a month! Have a word with your reseller to see if there are any user groups you could go to.
All the problems you describe are really simple to sort out, so stop panicking!
I suspect the roofs appear different heights because the roof pivot lines are currently set at a different heights. They are measured to the top surface of the roof - the roof 'hangs' below. Once you have lowered the roof, re-adjust the angle so it meets at the top. You may find you will have to reduce the thickness to match the other as it will hang slightly lower due to the difference in angle.
When you say the lower wall 'used' to have vertical boards, how did you do them before? If they were a vertical fill associated with the material used on the surface, just apply the same material in the profile manager again. If you used Solid Element Operations to cut vertical grooves out of the wall, then just redo the SEO. I can't give a definitive answer on this until we have more info.
Hope that helps!
Have you gone through the Interactive Training Guides (ITGs) yet? While they will take several days to go through, they do a good job of teaching you the basics of ArchiCAD, and help clarify the logic behind the process which is substantially different to other 'CAD' programs.
Are there any experienced users nearby to you? Sitting down with them for a few hours will teach you more than you would ever learn by trial and error in a month! Have a word with your reseller to see if there are any user groups you could go to.
All the problems you describe are really simple to sort out, so stop panicking!
I suspect the roofs appear different heights because the roof pivot lines are currently set at a different heights. They are measured to the top surface of the roof - the roof 'hangs' below. Once you have lowered the roof, re-adjust the angle so it meets at the top. You may find you will have to reduce the thickness to match the other as it will hang slightly lower due to the difference in angle.
When you say the lower wall 'used' to have vertical boards, how did you do them before? If they were a vertical fill associated with the material used on the surface, just apply the same material in the profile manager again. If you used Solid Element Operations to cut vertical grooves out of the wall, then just redo the SEO. I can't give a definitive answer on this until we have more info.
Hope that helps!
Hi Peter
Yes, I've gone through the essential and modeling guides. Most of the things I learnt from those I already had figured out, but there where a few good things to learn. However, they did use a lot of presets, which makes a newbie completely clueless on what is actually going on. I've also gone through quite a few different sites with 3rd party tutorials and found a few goodies.
Double checked to roof pivot lines, they all start out at the same height, strangely enough, so what see should be impossible. Now after your post I lowered the sides by 32mm to account for the difference, which aligned the roofs top surface, of course the come out at the bottom instead. Perhaps this can be fixed by decreasing the thickness. There will be an inconsistency at the top then, but it'll be on the inside so not noticeable, kind of like how it can look IRL😉
The thickness parameter however is greyed, and can't be changed, so I cant seem to adjust it. Any ideas why?
Well, I just realized that with the wall lowered I can workaround this by using a surface to cover the differences. Funny though how the problem occurd on the top surface when all roofs where on the same height. (There we go again with the workarounds...😉
The wall is made as a complex profile where the problematic part is a surface with custom material based on a standard one with some adjustments, I did try to reapply it, but it didn't seem to make any differences. Neither did restarting the whole computer, and I haven't saved the project in a long time, so I know the saved copy is/was ok.
I'll try to reapply once again.
Thanx Thomas
Yes, I've gone through the essential and modeling guides. Most of the things I learnt from those I already had figured out, but there where a few good things to learn. However, they did use a lot of presets, which makes a newbie completely clueless on what is actually going on. I've also gone through quite a few different sites with 3rd party tutorials and found a few goodies.
Double checked to roof pivot lines, they all start out at the same height, strangely enough, so what see should be impossible. Now after your post I lowered the sides by 32mm to account for the difference, which aligned the roofs top surface, of course the come out at the bottom instead. Perhaps this can be fixed by decreasing the thickness. There will be an inconsistency at the top then, but it'll be on the inside so not noticeable, kind of like how it can look IRL
The thickness parameter however is greyed, and can't be changed, so I cant seem to adjust it. Any ideas why?
Well, I just realized that with the wall lowered I can workaround this by using a surface to cover the differences. Funny though how the problem occurd on the top surface when all roofs where on the same height. (There we go again with the workarounds...
The wall is made as a complex profile where the problematic part is a surface with custom material based on a standard one with some adjustments, I did try to reapply it, but it didn't seem to make any differences. Neither did restarting the whole computer, and I haven't saved the project in a long time, so I know the saved copy is/was ok.
I'll try to reapply once again.
Thanx Thomas
Peter wrote:
Thomas,
Have you gone through the Interactive Training Guides (ITGs) yet? While they will take several days to go through, they do a good job of teaching you the basics of ArchiCAD, and help clarify the logic behind the process which is substantially different to other 'CAD' programs.
http://www.graphisoft.com/education/training_guides/
Are there any experienced users nearby to you? Sitting down with them for a few hours will teach you more than you would ever learn by trial and error in a month! Have a word with your reseller to see if there are any user groups you could go to.
All the problems you describe are really simple to sort out, so stop panicking!
I suspect the roofs appear different heights because the roof pivot lines are currently set at a different heights. They are measured to the top surface of the roof - the roof 'hangs' below. Once you have lowered the roof, re-adjust the angle so it meets at the top. You may find you will have to reduce the thickness to match the other as it will hang slightly lower due to the difference in angle.
When you say the lower wall 'used' to have vertical boards, how did you do them before? If they were a vertical fill associated with the material used on the surface, just apply the same material in the profile manager again. If you used Solid Element Operations to cut vertical grooves out of the wall, then just redo the SEO. I can't give a definitive answer on this until we have more info.
Hope that helps!
I can also notice that the roof height reference is to the lower side of the roof. Which figures as it connects to the top of the wall, which end where the roof starts offWell spotted! I introduced a deliberate mistake to see if you were paying attention!!
(Sorry, my mistake
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Peter wrote:That's ok, made no difference the roof looks great now, soon enough I'll apply a complex profile to it, or I would like to anyway if possible, since it's an old style standing seam tin sheet metal roof, and I'd live for the seams to showI can also notice that the roof height reference is to the lower side of the roof. Which figures as it connects to the top of the wall, which end where the roof starts offWell spotted! I introduced a deliberate mistake to see if you were paying attention!!
(Sorry, my mistake
I can see from changing the texture of the material of my custom profile that it does not change on the object in the elevation view. Most likely I have at some point, somewhere, managed to turn off the texture. In what menu is this controlled? Or, can I make my on custom vectorial hatching pattern, because this shows and changes in the view as it is changed in the material.
But since the texture showed before, I should be able to get it back.
Still looking?
