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Zone area extends outside window perimeter

Salto
Contributor

If I use automatic zones, then in the corner windows or window openings it always extends the area outside window perimeter.  (please see attachment)
It is graphically wrong. Is there any way to make it correct?

AC 26

 

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OK, I have turned the fills off.

There is a difference between the corner window (corner window tool) and a standard window (standard window tool) with custom corner options.

Even though it uses the same Window 26 in my case.

 

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They both appear to have the same settings, but corner window tool does not seem to show part of the frame.

This extra part of the frame seems to be affecting the zone.

I am not familiar with the default windows as I don't ever use them.

So the question is how to turn off that extra bit of frame if you don't need it.

 

It looks to me like it is a possible bug, as I don't think it should do this even with the extra frame.

I would report this to your local Archicad support to see what they say.

 

Maybe someone more familiar with these windows has a solution.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
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Barry Kelly
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How did you create the corner window?

I just tried placing a corner window (sill is at the wall base) and it seems fine.

 

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Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11
DGSketcher
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That looks like a curtain wall rather than a standard window. I have never had to use the CW tool in that context so I can't offer much help but this LINK will maybe clarify what is happening with your zone boundary or help you adjust your settings.

Apple iMac Intel i9 / macOS Sonoma / AC27UKI (most recent builds.. if they work)
Salto
Contributor

In my previous screenshot there was empty window opening with custom corners + curtain wall. (no need to look at curtain wall)
I will add another project with corner windows. The problem remains (see attachment).
PS! Please make sure your windows does not show fills. These fills will hide the problem. But we can not use fills, because the zone has to be until the window frame.

corner windows.png

Solution

OK, I have turned the fills off.

There is a difference between the corner window (corner window tool) and a standard window (standard window tool) with custom corner options.

Even though it uses the same Window 26 in my case.

 

BarryKelly_0-1698802166248.png

 

They both appear to have the same settings, but corner window tool does not seem to show part of the frame.

This extra part of the frame seems to be affecting the zone.

I am not familiar with the default windows as I don't ever use them.

So the question is how to turn off that extra bit of frame if you don't need it.

 

It looks to me like it is a possible bug, as I don't think it should do this even with the extra frame.

I would report this to your local Archicad support to see what they say.

 

Maybe someone more familiar with these windows has a solution.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11
Salto
Contributor

Thank You!
I understand the problem now. I have to replace windows with corner windows.


@Salto wrote:

I have to replace windows with corner windows.



That will work, but each side of the corner will be exactly the same.

If you want different size/type windows, then you have to apply the custom corner as you have done.

 

What I do not understand (because I don't use those window objects) is why the default window settings seem to be different with the different methods, even though in this case they are exactly the same window.

And why would that extra bit of frame affect the zone area?

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
i7-10700 @ 2.9Ghz, 32GB ram, GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

Has someone found a solution to this corner-window zone problem?
I would never suggest to use a "corner-window" tool, because after some time it crashes (you get an alert that the corner window has been changed to a single window and moves the windows to random places. You have to start from the beginning. At the end I changed all the windows back to normal windows.


Anyway, in my new project I will you use "Window" tool with custom corners. But the zone is still in extening. Why? AC27

 

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