connecting composite walls and slabs in sections

[Anonymous]

here is video of connecting composite walls and slabs in archicad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5JcBsKdpyE
It's the way I do it.
so watch it. Hope it will help anybody.

[Anonymous]

I prefere to model 2 different slabs: 1 for Structural propose and 1 for finished floor (non bearing); even put them on a separate layers.
Your method has a disadvantage in floor plan views - Target elements in SEO operations mantain original contours of the subtracted parts.

[Anonymous]

there is no disadvantage in floor plan since slabs contour are under the lines of the wall so they don't interfere with my floor plan.
I know for your method sometimes I have used it, but that method has disadvantage. I have to draw two slabs or even more if you put finishing slabs in every room. So you have to draw a lot more slabs and on every door you can see contours of your slab which bothers me more.
so that is why I am more pleased with this method presented here.
Don't get me wrong your method is OKe.

[Anonymous]

@mzex

Main issue with your method is how to model different type of floor finish?
especially with different heights...

Lines that bothers you, are actually connection lines of two different floor type, so they should be there...if floor finish is the same, then use one finish slab for multiple rooms...

[vfrontiers]

Also important is the ability to represent different FINISHES in plan.. With the ADDED floor finish SLABS, you can have different FILLS and create a nice looking PRESENTATION PLAN without a bunch of extra 2d fills.

AND.... If you use your structural slab as TOP OF SUBFLOOR, you can place LEVEL DIMENSIONS based on your structural slab (turn off FINISH FLOOR layer)...

[JaredBanks]

Also adding lots of SEOs to a file can slow things down. So anytime I find two options that are roughly equal, I tend to pick the one without SEO. Except when I get lazy...

Using the magic wand (space+click) adding in finish floor slabs is super fast.

[Anonymous]

dasneboja wrote:
@mzex

Main issue with your method is how to model different type of floor finish?
especially with different heights...

Lines that bothers you, are actually connection lines of two different floor type, so they should be there...if floor finish is the same, then use one finish slab for multiple rooms...

if I SPACE+click slabs into my rooms lines that bother me goes to the wall sides not to the door frames and I get two of them on both sides instead od just one. If I have different floor types I can set doors to show treshold and I get that line, or I can draw another that slab with different height in that room. It is not often situation that you have a lot of different floor types.
In scales of 1:50 I don't find important to draw that 1 cm as important.

I am familiar with your method. It has some advantages but I find this more suitable to my needs. I don't find good idea to have two slabs since you have to change thing in process of designing the house. it could be annoying to stretch two slabs instead of one.

[Anonymous]

vfrontiers wrote:
Also important is the ability to represent different FINISHES in plan.. With the ADDED floor finish SLABS, you can have different FILLS and create a nice looking PRESENTATION PLAN without a bunch of extra 2d fills.

AND.... If you use your structural slab as TOP OF SUBFLOOR, you can place LEVEL DIMENSIONS based on your structural slab (turn off FINISH FLOOR layer)...

first part of your post I find unimportant since I don't do any hatching on my floor plans, but if you like that no one said that you can't draw another slab in the room that has different finishing.

the second part with dimensioning is interesting and good point if you need that to be displayed. But I have custom level dimension that shows me top of the floor and top of construction slab. unfortunately it is not automatic.


Having SEO was never problem to me. My computers ran always good with models full of SEOs.

[Anonymous]

Best thing about your method is that works fine for you...

If you're ok with tracing custom levels whenever you change something,
and not having right volume of your slabs (for BOQs) that's ok with me


SEO will slow you down on large scale project no matter how powerful you hardware is...

[Anonymous]

dasneboja wrote:
Best thing about your method is that works fine for you...

If you're ok with tracing custom levels whenever you change something,
and not having right volume of your slabs (for BOQs) that's ok with me


SEO will slow you down on large scale project no matter how powerful you hardware is...

I don't have problems with calculating volume of the concrete, and finishes are calculated in m2, so I get that from zones.

Why I do this like this is that I want to have insulation on outer wall connected and if brick is construction material to have beam on the height of the slab. So in that case you will still have to SEO the below wall, while upper one is not SEO.
Alternative to that is to use complex profiles, what I did for gutter and foundations in that project that is on the clip.
If I want to have different finishes I draw another composite slab with different finishes.
I have recently modeled 4 skyscrapers (one was model and other 3 were modules) that was about 80000 m2 and no problems with SEO.

I don't say that your method is not good. I have to admit that I eill try it on the next project.