door wall materials (surfaces) not lining up correctly.

[rob2218]

door and wall materials (surfaces) not lining up properly.
GS....please advise.

[Eduardo Rolon]

All US does it like that.

They way I learned how to draw it about 30 years ago was that it was the opposite of connecting the hinges to the handle and that is the way I teach it at the University.

[rob2218]

So...do you point the arrow head "to" the hinges or point the arrow head "away" from the hinge side?
Just curious.
I mean....it does make sense to show the three points of connection (the door knob, the top hinge and the bottom hinge) as the diagram how the "down under" folk do it....but I too was taught for over 25 years that on a door "dashed line" opening diagram in elevation, the larger, open edge is the where the door know is and the arrow head (where the two dashed lines meet) is where the hinges are.......

Again..in Germany, side to side means "NO" and nodding ones head up and down means "yes".....so go figure.

ejrolon wrote:
All US does it like that.

They way I learned how to draw it about 30 years ago was that it was the opposite of connecting the hinges to the handle and that is the way I teach it at the University.

[Eduardo Rolon]

arrow head to hinges

[rob2218]

YES....that's how I was taught traditionally as well. Though...the folks down under have a good point though in reversing the graphics.

Reminds me of a story once.
Worked for an architect in San Diego.
He SWORE up and down that his whole life he indicated door tags as "hexagons" and window tags as "circles". I tried to explain it to him that he has drawn them this way his WHOLE (55+ years) life and that he never has seen them with doors as cirlces and window tags as hex's.

He said that when I switched the shape of the tag on him...it 'threw him off" and that he wanted to see doors as "hex tags" and windows as "circle tags".......we argued for a while, back and forth until I had to bring out the heavy artillery...."The Architectural Graphics Standards"...i.e. the bible of the how you graphically represent something in architecture.....and low and behold...I was right. Circles for for door tags, hex's for window tags.

When I pointed this out to him, he looked at, made a noise....something like...."huh...how bout that"......and he proceeded to state to me..."Remember Golden rule Rob, 'He who has the Gold Rules'......needless to say, for all that particular architects work, the door and window tags symbols was....well, completely the opposite, BASS-ACKWARDS if you will of what the entire U.S. standards were....

Lesson learned: if the man who's paying says....I want my door tag symbols to look like fish shapes......then by gosh darn it...fish shapes is what YE shall have.

[Eduardo Rolon]

4th year architectural school

[rob2218]

you done good sir......keep settin' them youngens straight.

[Eduardo Rolon]

That one is mine which I sometimes use as an example of what I expect from them.