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how to draw this wall?

Anonymous
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might be a stupid question, but i do not know how to draw this wall with the roof shape and the windows in order to get a 3d model?

cheers for any help
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Anonymous
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babs_80 wrote:
might be a stupid question, but i do not know how to draw this wall with the roof shape and the windows in order to get a 3d model?
For the top of the wall, use SEO (Solid Element Operation) - can be found in the <Design> menu.
Operation: subtraction. Target: your wall. Operator: an element (wall or beam) which has a custom profile assigned to its structure.
In the end, you place the operator on a hidden layer.
For the windows, please see page 322 in AC12 Reference Guide (Saving Custom Shape Doors and Windows) or do a search in AC's Help.

Cheers,
Adrian Tudoreanu
gable.jpg
Anonymous
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The dutch gable wall can be made by making the gable shape
using TrussMaker and using it to SEO with upwards extrusion
a normal wall as target. If the TrussMaker shape is the shape
of the parapet cap it can be left visible as the cap. There is a
library part that makes quoins that can be used for the normal
quoins but the arched quoins will have to be made using complex
profiles or slabs converted to a library part or possibly making them
using TrussMaker.
Peter Devlin
Anonymous
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Peter wrote:
The dutch gable wall can be made by making the gable shape using TrussMaker
Hi Peter,

Thank you for the truss tip; I've never thought of using it for this type of elements.
After playing a little with Truss Maker in AC12, I've run into a little bug - for this particular example, the result is shown in the screen shot attached. In AC11 everything seems fine.
Can you (or someone else) please confirm if this is an AC12 bug?

Thank you in advance,
Adrian Tudoreanu
AC12 Truss Problem.jpg
Anonymous
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Hello Adrian,
That's no little bug that's terrible. TrussMaker works in AC 10.
You say it works in 11 but does not in 12. I am not surprised.
It seems like, as AC becomes more complex, some things that
used to work get busted. I don't have the full version of 12 to
verify this bug but I wonder if you make a shape using TrussMaker
in AC 11 then copy and paste it into an AC 12 project it comes in
intact or busted. I had occasion once of suggesting that an auto-scripted
object made in AC 9 could be pasted into an AC 10 project because
the AC 10 auto-scripting mechanism did not work. The object indeed
came into the 10 project intact.
Peter Devlin
Anonymous
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truss worked fine for me (AC12 Full, latest build).. it was made from 2 polly lines joined in the center..

some of your 2D line work might not have been jointed perfectly??
Anonymous
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GeNOS wrote:
some of your 2D line work might not have been jointed perfectly??
The elements (lines, arcs) used to create the truss are joining perfectly. As a matter of fact, I've used the same file for creating the same truss in AC11 (here everything is ok).
In AC12, I've tried to create a polyline using the magic wand (tracing the above mentioned elements); the truss created from this polyline is ok. So I guess the problem occurs only with elements such as arcs and lines. Can you (or someone else) please try the first method (the one with lines and arcs) and post the result?

Thank you in advance,
Adrian Tudoreanu
Anonymous
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Peter wrote:
I wonder if you make a shape using TrussMaker
in AC 11 then copy and paste it into an AC 12 project it comes in
intact or busted.
Hello Peter,

Making the truss in AC11 and then importing it in AC12 leads to an intact result. Still, I wonder if anyone else has experienced this behavior or is it only on my machine?

Cheers,
Adrian Tudoreanu
Anonymous
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adytc wrote:
GeNOS wrote:
some of your 2D line work might not have been jointed perfectly??
The elements (lines, arcs) used to create the truss are joining perfectly. As a matter of fact, I've used the same file for creating the same truss in AC11 (here everything is ok).
In AC12, I've tried to create a polyline using the magic wand (tracing the above mentioned elements); the truss created from this polyline is ok. So I guess the problem occurs only with elements such as arcs and lines. Can you (or someone else) please try the first method (the one with lines and arcs) and post the result?

Thank you in advance,
Adrian Tudoreanu
ill give it a go with lines and archs. BRB
Anonymous
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Yep I get the error with lines and archs BUT… this is what is happening for me
if you draw 1/2 of teh line work then mirror it over to make it symmetrical, then any archs or circles mirrored will cause the error.. if you mirror just the lines and copy the circles over and trim them up (no mirroring of archs or circle) then it works fine

so basicly make the 2d linework without mirroring any circle or archs