the continuing saga of composite wall clean-up disasters...

[__archiben]

i hope the screenshot is self-explanatory.

the issue began with the two rebates being formed vertically at the interior wall junctions as shown. however: it is the outside skins that are to blame!

further messing around (several hours. can i send you my invoice graphisoft?) revealed that the walls were not joining in junction arrangements that I had set them to.

the wall reference line should form a continuous line around the exterior of the building because i had carried out an 'intersect' command on them. they should NOT suddenly shoot off into the building along an interior wall if i 'adjust' the internal wall up to it.

in the example below, skin priorities are as follows...

14 - external core
12 - internal core
6 - interior lining
4 - exterior cladding

... which leads back to the original 3D problem: how the hell does an exterior wall skin - with a lower priority than the internal linings - form a rebate in that lining on the other side of the wall?!

(and yes: priorities have been checked, double checked and examined in the finest detail. all walls are set to use the settings of the composite.)

remember this is nothing fancy: it's pretty depressing that after twenty-four(?) years the basic building blocks of archicad - walls - cannot form a simple, everyday junction correctly. don't even get me started on wall/slab/roof junctions...

THIS HAS GOT TO BE ADDRESSED SOON.

[Laszlo Nagy]

~/archiben wrote:

laszlonagy wrote:
Yes, I meant the Pen Sets.

being able to assign the pens-by-wall-function in the 'model view options' would be better though, no?

besides - you would have to allow each pen to be defined as transparent rather than be able to assign skin/fill/contour lines to the transparent pen . . . or they would always be transparent!

~/archiben

Yes, these are also possible options.
Probably the one that should be implemented is the one that adds the least amount of complexity.

[Anonymous]

Why not layers. In fact layer organizes the entire construction material industry. Any other solution is BS. Take a column the skin is on 09 (drywall) the core is in 03(concrete). So why is this difficult for GS? Because they disregarded the basics, took the easy way. I warned then it would come back and bite.

[KeesW]

I thought that only I was having problems with wall priorities but a Search got me to this subject. I've just wasted about one hour watching VT10 and then trying to figure out why, with two junctions comprising two different wall types, but having them set with identical priorities and materials, one joins properly and the other doesn't.

It is not funny to have such complexity thrust upon us. Surely, the logical and normal solution to 'T' and '+' junctions when different wall types are joined, are predictible for most cases and AC10 should be clever enough. Maybe the programmers who created shaded backgrounds for sketches should be moved to fix things that really drive users 'up the wall'- and reduce productivity.

Oh well, I can always use the patch tool!

My love affair with archicad is cooling and Revit is starting to look more attractive.