Building materials management strategy
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2018-09-04 11:49 AM
2018-09-04
11:49 AM
From Archicad 8.5 all the way to the present.
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2018-09-04 11:14 PM
2018-09-04
11:14 PM
Hi Skawagon,
Here's how we do it in our office. It is quite simple and works well for us :
First we adapted the basic Archicad materials list to our need in an office template. We renamed some materials, tweeked priorities when needed and created new ones when needed. The goal was for the template and base materials to work well in every basic and common situation we encounter daily.
Then, just as you said, every project is unique and you'll always need to create new materials. The rule is simple : never modify a base material -> always duplicate an existing one to do what you need. You also need a solid set of rules to name things in Archicad so that everything stays ordered and clear for everyone. The "space" technique works in certain cases to sort attributes in a specific way but the best way to do it for me is to describe things. "Concrete" can be declined for instance into "Concrete +" and "Concrete -". Same materials with higher or lower intersection priority (in my experience, you rarely need more than this to handle priority / if this is not the case, the modeling technique should be checked and perhaps optimized).
The "don't modify base attributes" and naming convention are keys to handle almost every Archicad Attribute.
With this in mind, you should never find bad surprises in your projects and be able to keep a nice and clean list of attributes than anyone can understand.
Hope it helps.
Johan
Here's how we do it in our office. It is quite simple and works well for us :
First we adapted the basic Archicad materials list to our need in an office template. We renamed some materials, tweeked priorities when needed and created new ones when needed. The goal was for the template and base materials to work well in every basic and common situation we encounter daily.
Then, just as you said, every project is unique and you'll always need to create new materials. The rule is simple : never modify a base material -> always duplicate an existing one to do what you need. You also need a solid set of rules to name things in Archicad so that everything stays ordered and clear for everyone. The "space" technique works in certain cases to sort attributes in a specific way but the best way to do it for me is to describe things. "Concrete" can be declined for instance into "Concrete +" and "Concrete -". Same materials with higher or lower intersection priority (in my experience, you rarely need more than this to handle priority / if this is not the case, the modeling technique should be checked and perhaps optimized).
The "don't modify base attributes" and naming convention are keys to handle almost every Archicad Attribute.
With this in mind, you should never find bad surprises in your projects and be able to keep a nice and clean list of attributes than anyone can understand.
Hope it helps.
Johan
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2018-09-05 07:25 AM
2018-09-05
07:25 AM
For material naming I work on the basis that if it is described separately in the specification, then that is the name it will be given e.g. 2.1 Face brick, 2.2 Blockwork inner leaf etc. I guess most of my work is housing orientated, so it may not work on more complex projects. It does however speed up documentation as composites can be labelled with skin lists and details will explode to allow labelling of the individual fills. It also means if you change a material description, say to 2.1A Face brick the change automatically cascades to all the labels that have used autotext or skin list labels.
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2018-09-06 09:45 AM
2018-09-06
09:45 AM
Thanks for the comments, our strategy is so far similar to what Johan does, but as we list material names in associative labels we do not have the opportunity to add visible characters to the list. I started to change the material ID by adding H (High) and L for lower priority instances of the same material.
However, originally I wanted to know if anybody changed the structure of materials in a more significant way. For example, I am constantly fighting the use of certain types of insulation that I used both in floor layers and in exterior walls now resulting in all sorts of amusing problems. For that reason, I am considering to split materials to categories like internal (between the internal load bearing construction) external (anything that is outside load bearing construction) load bearing (obviously) and then the killer materials that are essentially able to cut through anything, like insulation against water, for example. I also consider splitting some of those into vertical and horizontal since it usually is a problem when using one material in different scenarios. Did anybody try something like this? I would love to see if anybody came up with working internal logic for problems like this.
However, originally I wanted to know if anybody changed the structure of materials in a more significant way. For example, I am constantly fighting the use of certain types of insulation that I used both in floor layers and in exterior walls now resulting in all sorts of amusing problems. For that reason, I am considering to split materials to categories like internal (between the internal load bearing construction) external (anything that is outside load bearing construction) load bearing (obviously) and then the killer materials that are essentially able to cut through anything, like insulation against water, for example. I also consider splitting some of those into vertical and horizontal since it usually is a problem when using one material in different scenarios. Did anybody try something like this? I would love to see if anybody came up with working internal logic for problems like this.
From Archicad 8.5 all the way to the present.
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Wish to save palets and menus individualy in work enviroments:
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2018-09-06 10:12 AM
2018-09-06
10:12 AM
My specification arrangement kind of does what you are suggesting as I end up with separate insulation for ground floor, wall cavity, upper floor, partitions and roof, so there's plenty of scope to manage priorities before resorting to strength indicators in the name.
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2018-09-22 03:20 PM
2018-09-22
03:20 PM
I rename all the standard building materials to align them with my own specification headings that is based upon the UK CAWS system and then do the same for surfaces too. I also use a layer system that uses the same headings, that way I only have one system to remember.
I add quite a few materials to handle different actual building materials and also to deal with high and low priority conditions.
I add quite a few materials to handle different actual building materials and also to deal with high and low priority conditions.
Tim Ball
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2018-09-27 10:01 AM
2018-09-27
10:01 AM
Hi Tim, I had to read a little overview of what CAWS is, and it seems quite straight forward. Could you show printscreen as how your mateial manager looks like? I would love to see it in practice, thanks:)
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2018-09-30 07:33 AM
2018-09-30
07:33 AM
I am away from the office at the moment so can’t do a print screen but essentially I use the CAWS alpha-numeric scheme as the material ID with some extra descriptions so that the materials are grouped the way I want them. Quick part list would be
D Groundwork | Hardcore
D Groundwork | Waterproofing
E Groundwork | In Situ Concrete
Etc
It’s a bit more complicated than that but you get the idea. You can choose whatever system is well recognised by the people you work with
D Groundwork | Hardcore
D Groundwork | Waterproofing
E Groundwork | In Situ Concrete
Etc
It’s a bit more complicated than that but you get the idea. You can choose whatever system is well recognised by the people you work with
Tim Ball
AC26, iMac
User since V5
AC26, iMac
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