Fill: Background Fill behavior

[Anonymous]

Hello!

I've got a puzzling situation here:

On my elevations, I'm trying to use a fill to block out stuff behind it. On the first elevation, I drew my fill, selected the (solid) background fill as the pattern, selected Pen 151 as the foreground color, and Background as the background color. I then set the display order of the fill to be in Front. Works great.

On *every* other elevation, I can get the foreground color to appear (if I select a vectorial pattern), but solid patterns will not show, and I can't make the fill "opaque". I've checked every setting I can think to check:
-Fill Settings (Drafting Fill)
-Model View settings (not overriding drafting fills)
-Elevation Settings
-Layer Settings (Layer is on, unlocked)
-Display Order (Fills are all brought to the front, other elemets are sent backward)

I'm sure I'm just missing a setting somewhere. Any ideas?

[Anonymous]

Bit more information here:

I'm using MasterTemplate (for version 13). The elevations are ones already set up by MT. They are cloned in the View Map.

For kicks, I opened an older copy of the file (a previous design option) and started some drastic measures. I deleted the Elevation Clones in the view map, and I deleted an elevation in the project map.

I remade the elevation (by setting a new elevation tag), and the background fill worked. Even after rebuilding the Clones in the view map, the background fill worked, in just that rebuilt elevation, and the first elevation.

So, unless I find a quicker solution, one option for me is to delete all my elevations and rebuild them from scratch. That won't be too bad, as they are 99% model, but if this were to happen after I've drawn a bunch of 2D stuff in the view? That would be bad.

[Anonymous]

Check the Model View Options relating to the problematic elevation - in particular the settings for Cover fills / Drafting fills and check which your placed fill is assigned to be.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I've checked that. My fills are Drafting fills, and they are not being overridden in the Model View Options. I also checked to see what would happen if I unchecked all of the fill overrides. Nothing.

Incidentally, the presentation elevations all see to behave normally in the same file. I'm convinced it is just a buried setting somewhere. I'm almost ready to just delete these elevations and redo them.

[Laszlo Nagy]

You can compare all of the settings of the good Elevation and the bad Elevation and check if anything is different.
Another thing is whether the Trace Reference is turned on in the problematic Elevation. The Trace Reference Palette has a button to make all Fills transparent.

[Dave Jochum]

laszlonagy wrote:
The Trace Reference Palette has a button to make all Fills transparent.

Bingo! Just searched on this problem and that button was the culprit. I forgot about that little guy. Just goes to show that a perceived glitch is often an incorrectly used feature.