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Cinema 4D - The Industry Standard

Anonymous
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Maxon has recently upgraded their flagship product, Cinema 4D to version 10. They have also released a plug-in for ArchiCAD 10. These programs make for a terrific pair, ease of use, mature feature sets, speed and wonderful workflow.

For several months I have been putting other software packages through my personal learning curve and user testing. I work with the software and post my experiences in threads like this at the Talk.

I enjoy the fact that so many views happen within the threads. Better yet, I enjoy when others kick in their experiences with the subject software. No need to butt in with examples from other software programs, it is more interesting to just fully explore a single package - which in this thread is Cinema 4D. There are many existing architectural users of this fine piece of software and I call upon them to post recent examples of (WIP) work in progress and final renders. Not everything is perfect and there are currently a few kinks in the plug-in, but I will get into explaining that later.

If this is your first introduction to C4D, trust me it won't be your last. Nemechek is the parent company of Maxon and the C4D suite. News is that Nemecheck is or will soon own GraphiSoft and ArchiCAD. Just put two and two together.

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I'll start the thread with a quick example scene I assembled with bits and parts laying around on my hard drive. Tree entourage by xFrog, a snowy hillside from an example file on the internet, sky effect built into C4D, building from an ArchiCAD training file I use at the aBPa office in San Diego. All of this thrown together within 30 minutes, the render took 2 hrs. on a G5 dual 2GHz.

Cinema is the king when it comes to import/export. If you can get your entourage into practically any export format, chances are C4D will be able to import it. This is an extremely important factor to creativity. Now that I have gotten past my need to throw together something in C4D v10. It it time to slow down and create some examples of workflow issues, speed tests realistic rendering techniques. Once again I ask for help from other C4D users who can post examples, please jump right in - the water is fine and with a little MAXON soap you get a squeaky clean render.


Links to more info:

Architectural Examples:
http://www.maxon.net/pages/dyn_files/dyn_htx/htx/sol_archi_e.html
ArchiCAD related links:
http://www.maxon.net/pages/solutions/archicad/archicad_e.html
Achievements:
http://www.maxon.net/pages/dyn_files/dyn_htx/htx/press_e.html

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TomWaltz
Participant
adri wrote:
Also, has anyone has seen any C4D AC documentation/tutorials
3DCafe.com is a pretty good source, too.
Tom Waltz
Anonymous
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Burginger wrote:
Unfortunately there is currently a hold-up within the Mac OS regarding this feature and hopefully is will soon be addressed by Apple, Inc.
The next OS X update (10.4.9) is said to include OpenGL improvements. Hopefully this will do the trick.
Anonymous
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Industry standard modeling programs feature high end choices for object formats and rendering engine plug-ins, the following are a few of the rendering engine options available to Cinema4D users.


http://www.vrayforc4d.com

http://www.maxwellrender.com/

http://www.cebasusa.com/c4dDemo/c4dOutput.html
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stefan
Advisor
Since the Advanced Render module in Cinema4D was licensed from Cebas, who is the developer of FinalRender, do you have any insight in the difference between the two rendering engines?
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
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Anonymous
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Good detective work Stefan, I would assume Final Render 2 has all the features right now today, that the next Advanced Render might have... depending on what Maxon wants to licence.

No wonder their engine integration is so slick, I never knew that about Cebas.


P.S. - Now that I hit Veteran Member Status, is there a way to keep it... I wouldn't want to become an over the hill SENIOR Member like ol' Matt, Tom and Dwight.
Anonymous
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There is a community of C4D users who are setting the Material aspect of Cinema 4D on fire!

Check out: http://www.c4dtextures.com/
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Anonymous
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If someone is using v-ray, you can find great materials at www.vray-materials.de
Anonymous
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In setting up a model of a neighborhood. If the site is for all intents and
purposes FLAT, you can get away without any add-on. Just use ArchiCAD and
version 10's new complex profile tool. Draw a section of the road, include
the curb and sidewalk. Give the different fills a different material such
as Paving - Curb and Sidewalk. Click, click and click your way around the
supplied civil drawing. At intersections use a slab with just a curb and
sidewalk complex profile on the border. Add invisible roof objects and the
solid element operations for handicap ramps at intersections. Add lamps and
you are good to go.

The following two images show a birds eye and a close up.
SITE_OVERVIEW.jpg
Anonymous
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Here is a close up of a curb cut at an intersection, created in ArchiCAD. Dosch Design Nissan Car model added in C4D.

edit - actually a Toyota Celica
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Djordje
Virtuoso
Mark,

This is a different topic, so I moved your original posts on site modeling and the Dosch cars.

You are discussing the site modeling, so if you want to continue, it is in Working in Archicad, and also copied to Tips&Tricks.

Look before you double post ... and please remove the non-related posts from the topic.
Djordje



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