Sounds like perhaps you aren't using the Maxon materials if it was an AC17 file - have you looked into the migration process?
I have to say that the results I have been getting have been "okay" - much better than the joke Lightworks engine, but some way off the likes of Vray/Corona etc etc. Perhaps an unfair comparison, but Gsoft have marketed it as photo-realistic, so fair, imo.
Try using the likes of brute force rendering in Maxwell, or even Irradiance Mapping/Light cache at high quality settings in Vray etc - then you will know about render times
I asked the trainer at my local AC18 training about distributed rendering in future, which would obviously be a big plus for an architectural office with many multi-core machines - he suggested it was a possible future move, but nothing planned.
Our office is finding most value in the "clay" style renderings - the white model mode is very cool for concept work.
I have to say that the results I have been getting have been "okay" - much better than the joke Lightworks engine, but some way off the likes of Vray/Corona etc etc. Perhaps an unfair comparison, but Gsoft have marketed it as photo-realistic, so fair, imo.
Try using the likes of brute force rendering in Maxwell, or even Irradiance Mapping/Light cache at high quality settings in Vray etc - then you will know about render times
I asked the trainer at my local AC18 training about distributed rendering in future, which would obviously be a big plus for an architectural office with many multi-core machines - he suggested it was a possible future move, but nothing planned.
Our office is finding most value in the "clay" style renderings - the white model mode is very cool for concept work.
Rob,
OOB (out of the box) means... just that. The default 18 template for a fresh project. Opening a 17 project is not OOB. Not only will the materials not be tuned to CR as eliotbnz says, but the CR settings and scenes are also not pre-set if you open an existing project.
Also... and unfortunately... the template is different for every localized version... and the video was made by HQ I think, perhaps for the INT version and template. The US template created by GSNA in Boston has issues, but is also unlikely to match other localizations (e.g., the videos - unless GSNA made the video in question) as far as settings.
See the attached to open a pre-defined (by GS) 'scene' with fast settings and see if you get satisfactory results. A scene is just a named collection of all of the many CR settings. I don't believe the predefined ones are necessarily good, but provide a reasonable starting point.
Karl
OOB (out of the box) means... just that. The default 18 template for a fresh project. Opening a 17 project is not OOB. Not only will the materials not be tuned to CR as eliotbnz says, but the CR settings and scenes are also not pre-set if you open an existing project.
Also... and unfortunately... the template is different for every localized version... and the video was made by HQ I think, perhaps for the INT version and template. The US template created by GSNA in Boston has issues, but is also unlikely to match other localizations (e.g., the videos - unless GSNA made the video in question) as far as settings.
See the attached to open a pre-defined (by GS) 'scene' with fast settings and see if you get satisfactory results. A scene is just a named collection of all of the many CR settings. I don't believe the predefined ones are necessarily good, but provide a reasonable starting point.
Karl
rob2218 wrote:
Well...obviously no one wants "poor" rendering quality but it was touted as "look how photo realistic this new render engine is"......yet no one stated it'd be a heck of a lot slower.....even OOTB rendering with Cinema4 settings.
I've seen the results side by side, and well......it's 'ok'. A little better in lighting but, umm...dunno. Clients just aren't as astute to these kinds of subtle changes in eye candy.
Seems the "lightworks" engine did an ok job and clients were none the wiser....but now we have this Cinema4 engine and in an out-of-the-box first attempt with a model....it's, like I said, well....ok.
Counterpoint.....
These are direct from ArchiCAD 18 and Cinerender with some having minor post-processing in Photoshop to adjust light balance and others (Foam Renders) obviously photocomposited with Sketch renders also direct from ArchiCAD.
These may not be at the level of more professional render engines like Vray or Maxwell, but they're lightyears ahead of anything you could ever get out of Lightworks (sans tons of tedious adjustment and cheating) with the average render times between 5 minutes (the Foam renders) to mostly 1-2 hours at most.....
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ALL Cinerender and ALL with minimal effort and adjustments once the settings template was set.
Like I said, nowhere near the level of Maxwell or Vray (Which I also still use for more professional looking images and heavier scenes (read: 3D trees and heavy polygons), but I don't think it's even remotely debatable that Cinerender is way more superior to Lightworks ever was or could be.
Don't be one of those people that blames their tools for poor quality work when you didn't bother learning how to use the tool nor used it correctly or with any skill or competence at all.
If you're going to bash it, at least take the effort to learn how to use it first and use it well.
When I get some time I may post some Vray and Maxwell render versions of some of the projects (the first single family home and some of the multi-unit residential mid-rises) for comparison purposes.
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ALL Cinerender and ALL with minimal effort and adjustments once the settings template was set.
Like I said, nowhere near the level of Maxwell or Vray (Which I also still use for more professional looking images and heavier scenes (read: 3D trees and heavy polygons), but I don't think it's even remotely debatable that Cinerender is way more superior to Lightworks ever was or could be.
Don't be one of those people that blames their tools for poor quality work when you didn't bother learning how to use the tool nor used it correctly or with any skill or competence at all.
If you're going to bash it, at least take the effort to learn how to use it first and use it well.
When I get some time I may post some Vray and Maxwell render versions of some of the projects (the first single family home and some of the multi-unit residential mid-rises) for comparison purposes.
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