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How can I save a movie to DVD

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I am testing some of animations with artlantis, already I did a movie
but now I have some doubts

The file size of AC 8,1 is 2,4 MB the file in artlantis 4,5
is 59,9 MB

1. The file of .mov was 1.62GB in format (quicktime
compressed) size 768 576 xs the PAL 25 photograms by seg. with
duration of 40 seconds.

2. Then I tested another in format (quicktime compressed) size
320 200 xs VGA 25 photograms by seg. with duration of 30 seconds. the
file .mov was 182 MB

Then I change some textures that you could be larger in size
and saving them with smaller KB

Is normal the size of the file for .mov?

The other doubt that I have is if a file .mov I can save it in a DVD,
and send it to my client and he can see it in any DVD?

the program iDVD has this option?
does anybody knows how to make it?

Thanks in Advance
David
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stefan
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ejrolon wrote:
The last sentence is a bit biased... Whatever you told is perfectly possible on a PC as well.
...But the programs (iMovie,iDVD,Garageband) come free with any mac and if you need to buy them they are only $49.00US
That was not the point. You still need to buy a Mac and OS X.

MS Movie Maker 2 is also free (but you need to have a Windows license).
Apple iTunes is free for PC & Mac (to help sell the iPod to non-Mac users).
Sony Vegas Movie Studio (incl. DVD Architect Studio) is $100 and is very versatile. It's not free, but is a lite-version of professional software.
An alternative to Garageband is ACID Xpress which is free (but limited). Upgrade is cheap. I paid $30 to upgrade from an old version which came with a CD-writer.
Adobe Premiere Elements is about $150, I thought.

So cheap PC-tools are available as well.

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On the other hand, MPEG2-encoders are not free and that is why you usually have to pay a license fee to have it. Most cheap video-software needs to support it to be able to export a movie into DVD format (which is MPEG2 for the video).

TMPGEnc is free for encoding video to MPEG1, but needs a license for MPEG2-conversion.

There are freeware and shareware svcd/DVD-editing programs too. But to encode MPEG2 files you need to pay. I guess Apple pays for the MPEG2-license and charges it in the OS and/or the hardware.

(I wanted to at least give some usefull info instead of turning it into a Mac vc. PC debate)
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
Archicad28/Revit2024/Rhino8/Solibri/Zoom
MBP2023:14"M2MAX/Sequoia+Win11
Archicad-user since 1998
my Archicad Book
Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
I wont get on the mac vs pc debate again, but one parting shot... the integration of the iLife software is excellent, and those are not even the Pro vesions...

Going off topic; What is it with listing all the software and hardware?

PowerBook 17" 2Gb Ram, C4d, Blender, VPC, AC09, Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop, SkecthUp, Notational Velocity, OmniOutliner, Artlantis 4.5, MS Office, iPod 3G

ThinkPad A31p, WinXp Pro, P4, 768 Ram, AutoCAD 2004, 3D Viz R04, Coreldraw, Freehand, Premiere, AfterEffects, Revit 6, ADT 2004, Photoshop, Acrobat, InDesign, Flash, Dreamweaver, MS Office, MS Project, Solitaire

and soon to have whatever model of G5 comes out at MacWorld...
Eduardo Rolón AIA NCARB
AC27 US/INT -> AC08

Macbook Pro M1 Max 64GB ram, OS X 10.XX latest
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Anonymous
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From 1999 to 2004 I did all of my architectural work on my Dell Windows 2000 Professional 2Ghz. It was the cat's meow because I could work all day without a single crash, at a speed much, much faster than my Macintosh friends.

Times have changed, now my G5 dualie 2GHz pushes the data around so fast it most often waits for me. ArchiCAD works great on this machine, now. The apps are integrated, easy to use and surprizingly complete in their abilities. The Dell sits idle except when it is used as a net rendering node.

Therefore I am biased, but not unaware of the PC abilities and problems.

Mark (Switcher) Burginger
Anonymous
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ejrolon wrote:
Going off topic; What is it with listing all the software and hardware?
Eduardo;

Whilst you _do_ have a signature it does list only the 'basic' items. Most of us have MS office applications, and suchlike - but printer details / other Architectural software information might be useful (to know) to somebody else some day. At least that is the idea!

- Stuart
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Karl, sounds to me very logic, your explanation of the textures,
I tried to make new changes in the file of artlantis, and I could reduce of
59.9MB to 42MB changing some textures to it.
but I don´t understand what happens to
artlantis 4.5 for mac the archive .mov was of 2.92 GB in quicktime compress.

So, I make a test with one friend of PC (Windows),
and for my great surprise the problem I am solved very fast to the
archive .mov was of 42MB. which gave me something of fear to know that my
G5 could not.

probably during the editing process in artlantis, or inclusively
archicad I could have generated some mistake, that was growing in MB.

On the other hand, some commentaries that Burginger did previously,
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=17282&highlight=video#17282

take into account their commentaries I have QuickTime VR Authoring
Studio in my hands, and now I want to install it, but my problem is that
I get confused of version, this version is 9 system OS, in the Apple
specification store does not appear clear to me. I have all my softwares running on OX Is there any new version to upgrade this or I need to use
clasicc 9 system OS? On the other hand, exists some web site where
I can see the tutorials in video?


John Aussie, I took your advise and get the cleaner 6, hoping I can make benefits in the future.

thanks to Stefan and Ricki, now I know that there is a whole world of softwares to compress and edit movie, I will like to know which of these softwares are the best to work with them? Sorenson Video 3, 4, Vegas Movie Studio, Cleaner?

I have learned in six hours, how to make a DVD. I used the tutorials on line, and just read patiently. step by step. first you need to export your images to iphoto, to make a slideshow, then on imovie you import the file .mov edit sound, effects, save then on idvd export the files of imovie, iphoto. and place which kind of theme did you choose. or even you can create a new one.

then when youre completly sure that your finished, burn your dvd

Dear friends thanks for your commentaries.
Eduardo Rolon
Moderator
For your consideration:
1) Avoid exporting to .mov or .avi the files created within a 3D app ( Art. C4D, Viz) it is easier to always export to sequential jpegs, tga's or tiff. Reasons for this are simple, if something goes wrong you can pick up where you left off (frame 241 out of 2000 frames for example). Also since the 3d program does not have to create the movie it finishes faster, and by exporting everything to a sequence then you can use another program to experiment with the compression settings without having to re-render the whole project.
2) If you are using a mac and you have quicktime pro you can skip the import to iPhoto step, just open quicktime and import the sequence. There you can play around with frame rates and compression settings. This is the movie that you will import into iMovie.

hope this helps
Eduardo Rolón AIA NCARB
AC27 US/INT -> AC08

Macbook Pro M1 Max 64GB ram, OS X 10.XX latest
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stefan
Advisor
While you're at it, a sequence of JPEG images has the advantage of being not that big, but the disadvantage of allready being compressed.

The best results is rendering out to non-lossy compressed images, like TGA or TIFF (they use compression, but non-lossy, which means smaller then uncompressed but still fairly big in size).

Using non-lossy images will allow the conversion to give better results.

If space matters, use JPEG but avoid low-quality.

Most professional video-editors allow you to import a sequence of images and use it as if it where a movie, without having to convert it. Remember then conversion is usually best left untill the final output. That said, for performance, some video-editors convert compressed movies first to a better suited format for editing (which often means large files anyway).
--- stefan boeykens --- bim-expert-architect-engineer-musician ---
Archicad28/Revit2024/Rhino8/Solibri/Zoom
MBP2023:14"M2MAX/Sequoia+Win11
Archicad-user since 1998
my Archicad Book
Anonymous
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For all those who have been living on the Dark Side of the Moon.

Apple has shipped the new iLife bundle. The major improvement to iMovie is the ability to edit 16:9 widescreen DV and even HDV.

I have tested the Anamorphic straight through from render and still photography to DVD displayed on a widescreen set. Looking good.
Anonymous
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Wow! Those of you who like to prepare your portfolio, still images on DVD (preferrable Widescreen) are going to be very happy with the latest iMovie HD. Looking at still images in 16:9 zooming in with Ken Burn's pan and zoom tool is crystal sharp.

Taking it a step further I tested ultra-hi res photographs and renderings, 1080 pixel across. The new HD editor is tons cleaner - very clear, not pixilated like the standard DV editor. That was a surprise. Here is a screen shot, jpeg lost some in translation.

Very good, now if there was only a way to get this onto the screen. Currently you need to write it out, back, to a HD video camera and display it to your set from there.

I bet Apple creates another solution.