Interior scene

[Anonymous]

My previous post in this forum was a long time ago and I found I really missed the good natured critique and advice from the community. So, there is a recent work of mine.

For the record:
Original size: 2000/1500 pixels. Faces: 287 220. Render time: 2 h 50 min. Rendered in Max with VRay. Modelled in AC, except for: sofas and chairs - .max-models from the Internet; bottles, plates, window handles and curtains - modelled in Max.

As I have said before - I will welcome all the critique!

[Anonymous]

It is great!

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Steve! Good point!

[Anonymous]

Really great work! Having seen lots of renders the Vray-Max combo it is and has always been an interesting one to me because I know so little about it.

Now with the Intel Macs, this software combination is a possibility for "the rest of us". Can you tell us more about the work flow? Cost of getting into that combination of software?

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Mark!

I have been using Max for long years since it had been the only rendering application we studied at the university. There was also Strata then, but you had to self-teach it and it was only for Macs. And Macs were and still are way too expensive! So I had no choice!

Today I use Max default renderer for very fast renderings (according to me nothing can produce such renderings faster then it) and VRay for quality presentations for competitions or for other clients-architects.

There are two shortcomings though - Max is VERY difficult to learn and VRay is even more difficult! The price you pay for incredible software is the incredible amount of time you spend to learn it!

One really great feature of VRay is that you need just one light to illuminate an exterior rendering! No more "backlights", "underlights", etc!

[Anonymous]

Kliment, your rendering is great. U r master of photorealistic rendering.

I have to ask one maybe not so nice question: I'm asking myself for a long time what is the purpose of such first class rendering? Ppl spend hours and hours for that and as much I know, no client pays or insists to watch a possible arrangment of a part of his future living room, its more like a hobby, isn't it?

However, u did first class job, u could print the photo and say it was taken by a real camera, everyone would belive that!

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Nikola!

Sadly, I have to admit you are right! The clients are usually satisfied with much simpler renderings, like that in my other post in this forum about "fast" renderings. High quality renderings usually serve to establish a name for the architect among the other professionals, because they are the only ones who could really evaluate the effort and skills, needed to produce them.

At the moment I am experimenting with different techniques to achieve a more artistic look of the pictures and mixing realistic renderings with hand paintings effect. Probably will post some later

About the hobby thing - well, I have always taken a great pleasure in visualizing my work before it had been built. I am not a patient man! And graphic design is my hobby!

[Anonymous]

For Mark: VRay advantages:
- Just one lamp is enough to light an exterior scene.
- Very easy to make realistic glass both in exterior and interior. It was almost impossible to make decent glass with Max alone.
- Very easy to make metals.
- Wonderful way to tune reflections.
- In the final version there is a "real" photographic camera. Haven't tried it yet, though.

[Anonymous]

kliment wrote:
Thank you, Nikola!

High quality renderings usually serve to establish a name for the architect among the other professionals, because they are the only ones who could really evaluate the effort and skills, needed to produce them.

Yes, thats a good reason for super-realistic visualization, especially for young architects who want to prove themself. No architect can look away from such beautiful work, and there is much greater chance to ask who did it.

On the other side we have here in Croatia firms which r specialized for 3d visualization (I don't know the situation in European Union countries like Bulgaria , but I guess you have them too) . So, u give them 2d drafting planes and u get nice, like yours, pictures and you can say later u did that.

[Anonymous]

Nikola wrote:
... especially for young architects who want to prove themself.

That was the way we earned some extra money when I was a student at the university. This is also what I tell my students now when I try to persuade them to learn AC instead of AutoCAD.

As for the specialized firms - yes, there are such in Bulgaria, and some prety good ones too. But it is always better to have an Architect do the architectural visualizations for you than a Designer or a Painter! They tend to treat it and compose it as a painting rather than find a way to promote the building itself!

Just my oppinion...

Nikola wrote:
u give them 2d drafting planes and u get nice, like yours, pictures and you can say later u did that.

A proof it is me...

[Anonymous]

kliment wrote:
A proof it is me...

Oh, I did no way wanted to question your work, it maybe sounded so because of my low english language skill, forgive me about that!


Look what I'm struggling with these days. It should be nice interieur of a book shop with fine night illumination. This is very difficult task for artlantis studio.

There should be three different main light sources:

1. (marked on the pic as number 1) That is the strongest light source, usually turned off, used only by cleaning or some other work related with maintains (turned off in the pic)

2. that should be targeted light that illuminates the shelves and makes books look better. I cant make that look real in artlanits studio. I guess post production is the only answer.

3. This is the main light source during shops operating night hours. That light source is hidden to visitors eyes and illuminates the ceiling and that gives the room nice indirect uniform light. Very difficult task for visualization.