2008-02-13 02:30 PM
2008-03-11 02:40 PM
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2008-03-11 05:18 PM
2008-03-11 06:03 PM
Olivia wrote:Agreed.
I agree.
It would be nice to be able to model so simply like in sketchup, and then be able to generate plans, sections and elevations from the model, with drawing organization capabilities, as in archicad.
2008-03-11 11:25 PM
"ejrolon" wrote:
Olivia, you can do that now.
Right now you can push/pull walls, windows and doors in the 3D window, floor plan and sections/elevations. You can define custom profiles for walls, columns and beams, you can create and edit components, you can define views and layers. SketchUp's Layout is a "copy" of Plotmaker which has been declared by AC users as too slow and difficult.
Archicad can do better renderings than SketchUp, can handle bigger model, has teamwork, it is easier to make changes, has better text and dimensioning tools, has better dwg support, can handle xrefs and modules better than SketchUp, etc.
All this is good in archicad, I'm not disputing that.
What can you do in SketchUp that cannot be done in AC? The only things I can think of is that there are no limitations of the objects that can be created in a 3D window (since all objects start as shapes) and that all windows can be "orbited" into a 3D view. If you analyze these advantages vs their disadvantages you'll see that AC implementation is good and fast enough.
Can we stop wishing that a hammer do the work of a screwdriver or vice-versa? Each is good at what it does and if somebody wants to use a hammer to pull a screw I can guarantee that it is not the Hammer's fault if he does a bad job of it.
I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying cancel out archicad with sketchup. All I am asking for is greater flexibility to create custom 3d objects (like in sketchup), and be able to easily generate plans, elevations and sections from them (like in archicad). I'm not saying that sketchup should replace archicad. This forum is supposed to be about improving the program, what is the point of ignoring the unnecessary complexity of archicad?
2008-03-12 12:31 AM
Olivia wrote:Olivia, I am not trying to be dense and I understand the point, AC should be flexible and easy but what it is designed to do is not, therefore there are some complexities. The main problem here (and the whole thread) is that you are comparing apples to oranges. Sketchup does not do 10% of what can be done in AC and what it does it does extremely well yet most of that 10% can also be done in AC.
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I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying cancel out archicad with sketchup. All I am asking for is greater flexibility to create custom 3d objects (like in sketchup), and be able to easily generate plans, elevations and sections from them (like in archicad). I'm not saying that sketchup should replace archicad. This forum is supposed to be about improving the program, what is the point of ignoring the unnecessary complexity of archicad?
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2008-03-12 07:47 PM
2008-03-12 09:11 PM
ozbencetin wrote:
I think simple "push pull button" would be a great add-on to ArchiCAD
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2008-03-12 09:26 PM
ejrolon wrote:They really aren't the same... not even close, really. Push/pull works on any shape in any view. Sure, you can make a wall taller, but you can't make a shape grow out from it without editing its profile, something you may not want.ozbencetin wrote:
I think simple "push pull button" would be a great add-on to ArchiCAD
So, changing the name of the "Complex Profile" and "Profiler" is the only thing that AC has to do?
2008-03-12 09:36 PM
Olivia wrote:The trouble is that one person's unnecessary complexity is another's critical feature.
...what is the point of ignoring the unnecessary complexity of archicad?
2008-03-12 10:04 PM
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