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2019-08-02 08:10 PM
This is my first time posting to the forum, so please bare with me. I have spent forever trying to make a schedule that lists various finishes in my projects. Everything from paint colors to tile to steel to wood paneling. It seems that the best way to do this is by scheduling surfaces. Of course, surfaces have no inherent properties. It would be ideal to add things like an ID and notes to each surface...
I know Archicad wants us to use the software by programming all data into elements, but It quickly becomes a data management nightmare. Does anyone know a workaround?
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2019-08-11 09:19 PM
99% of your schedule can be produced with properties, You will need to read on that. It is not going to be easy but conceptually you can either write some of the description in the BMat, some in the surface, some can be expressions that read the code from the surface (If mat has -S in the name then finish is "shinny), some can be properties only tied to construction elements (If slab with material "WP6" then description is "wood planks 6" wide…").
In AC23 you will be able to add Classifications to BMats which will open a new set of possibilities for expressions and scheduling.
The hopeful item is that you only have to do this once and then you can resuse it and that will be easier than copy/pasting from Excel.
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2019-08-03 01:40 PM
You will be able to define Properties in the Property Manager and make them available to "Material" Classifications. Then these Materials will be displayed in the Building Material Dialog.
Hopefully, this will achieve what you are trying to do.
But, only from AC23 on.
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2019-08-06 06:27 AM
LaszloNagy wrote:.
In ARCHICAD 23, Building Material will have Properties just like elements can have Properties.
You will be able to define Properties in the Property Manager and make them available to "Material" Classifications. Then these Materials will be displayed in the Building Material Dialog.
Hopefully, this will achieve what you are trying to do.
But, only from AC23 on.
You mention "Building Materials" where he mentions "Surfaces." Will this new solution work for surfaces too?
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2019-08-06 05:14 PM
So when that Surface is displayed in a Surface Schedule, all other Properties of the Building Material using that Surface can also be displayed.
It would be good to see an example of what DBS would like to achieve, but I think AC23 may be able to do that with these new BM Properties feature.
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2019-08-06 10:17 PM
I think he's looking for the path with the least bit of work needed; especially since the surfaces already exist and would only require tweaking of the properties (again, if that existed).
Of course another option would be to create and array of slab blocks (for instance) and simply assign surfaces to them. Then schedule the slabs and show the surface applied and a "custom" field for the description in a schedule. But, probably not any less work than creating and editing Building Materials with surfaces.
The scheduling and properties feature is so powerful, I'd love to see everything "schedule ready," even attributes.
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2019-08-10 08:55 PM
What's baffling to me is that finish schedules are common in the States. A single schedule oftentimes calls out the tiles, paints, finished woods, wall coverings, counters, and so on. With the idea of BIM being so clear, why wouldn't we have this option?
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2019-08-10 11:59 PM
DBS wrote:Nope, You just create a new Surface and override the one for the Building Material in the object.
…What if I want to change the color as I'm modeling? Do I need to create a new surface AND a new building material? –
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2019-08-11 12:39 AM
ejrolon wrote:If I do a surface override, I can't get data associated with the overridden surface to schedule. Important things like color, finish, supplier, etc (see the attached screenshot as an example). How would one create this schedule using Archicad?
DBS wrote:Nope, You just create a new Surface and override the one for the Building Material in the object.
…What if I want to change the color as I'm modeling? Do I need to create a new surface AND a new building material? –
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2019-08-11 01:10 AM
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