Details aren't "live"

[Anonymous]

Hello,
First post to this forum, new(ish) Archicad user (longtime Revit user).

I'm trying to find out how to do a detail callout that is "live" so that when the wall section changes, the detail also changes (this is supposed to be BIM after all).

I've created a composite wall (see screenshots) and an intersecting floor. I've done nothing with the Priority Based Connections or assigning priorities to anything.

In Revit, if you create a callout of something (plan or section), all of the model elements are "live" and actually show the modeled items. It appears in the callout that I've created, everything has been changed to linework.

What am I missing?

JM

[Eduardo Rolon]

You are not missing anything and this is one of the cases that Revit is better. On AC though this can be done with the following workflow.

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To Keep it live

• Use the section tool to create a section at the point you want the detail, you will need to define the section limits for both Height (in the settings) and depth on the floor plan
• This section will be placed on a layer that you will turn off so that it does not show on the floor plans.
• Place the section on the Layout
• the Detail tool will be used as a "Linked Detail" that will get the information from the drawing, number and sheet.

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Alternatively the other way to work with the Detail tool is that if the model changes then you need to force a "Manual Update" using the 'Rebuild from Model" option.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Eduardo's proposed solution is probably your best shot.
Unfortunately it will work only for section.
You still will not be able to make enlarged Floor Plan details that are live. Those will still be static and need to be updated.

[Barry Kelly]

laszlonagy wrote:
You still will not be able to make enlarged Floor Plan details that are live. Those will still be static and need to be updated.

You can if you create a new floor plan view and change it to a larger scale.
The problem is that although completely 'live' it is the entire plan and not just a cropped area.
However you can place this view as a drawing in your layout and crop it there.

If you want to show annotation outside of your cropped area it is possible to place two drawings on top of each other - each with different layers.
One has the main plan but no text - the other has just the text only that suits the larger scale plan.
Then each can be cropped independently of each other.
See this post for more detail.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=182238

Barry.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Yes, I know this is a solution, but not as elegant as the "other" one. Would be nice to have live Details/Worksheets in ArchiCAD too.

[Barry Kelly]

laszlonagy wrote:
Yes, I know this is a solution, but not as elegant as the "other" one.

I know you do but I just wanted to make sure others do to.

laszlonagy wrote:
Would be nice to have live Details/Worksheets in ArchiCAD too.

I completely agree.

Barry.

[Laszlo Nagy]

Barry wrote:

laszlonagy wrote:
Yes, I know this is a solution, but not as elegant as the "other" one.

I know you do but I just wanted to make sure others do to.

Barry.

Oh, OK, sometimes I have to remember that something that is "addressed to me" is not necessarily addressed to me.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the replies.

This isn't a great workflow, it's not BIM. Hopefully AC can adapt soon.

[alemanda]

I think that not live details is a pro in most of cases.
That's because I think that details are produced when the general design is completed so that you don't need a really live details ...
at the end it is always possible to update the details ... one by one ... but it is always possible.

[Barry Kelly]

My wish is that details and worksheets were live with the model with the option to change them to 'Drawing' just like we can now with sections and elevations (that's why I use sections for details).

Barry.