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Gisele
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ROOF WALL.jpg

How to prevent showing the wall cut when using the Trim Element to Roof?


ROOF WALL.jpg
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Barry Kelly
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The building material strength for the top roof surface needs to be stronger than the building material strengths you use for the wall.

 

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Select the roof, right mouse click and choose the option to 'edit selected composite'.

This will show you the building materials you have used in that composite.

 

Or even better, select a roof plane and a wall and open the building material settings dialogue.

You can then arrange the list by building materials used (they will be highlighted) and you can compare the strengths of all of them.

The one used for the top surface of the roof need to be stronger than those used in the walls.

 

When you 'trim', the shape and position of the elements will form the overall trim and the stronger building materials will cut the weaker ones.

 

Barry.

 

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
Dell XPS- i7-6700 @ 3.4Ghz, 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 960 (2GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

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mthd
Ace

Hi @Zdenko to help us all understand how to do this operation with various methods and the resultant effects, please watch this excellent video tutorial. For the @Barry Kelly material strength method please watch the video to the end. Enjoy !

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7OZ_fU7eGA

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Barry Kelly
Moderator

The building material strength for the top roof surface needs to be stronger than the building material strengths you use for the wall.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
Dell XPS- i7-6700 @ 3.4Ghz, 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 960 (2GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

Thank you, Barry!

AC 26 - 5002 USA FULL
Win11 Pro 22H2 - 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900KF 3.00 GHz - 64 GB - 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

where in the "help module" is this explained or what do i search for? when i look at the building materials interface i don't see the roof that i used and trying to eliminate the wall peeking through? i tried to change the numbers in the layer interface to increase roof from 1 to 5 and wall partitions from 5 to 1 but no changes.

Screenshot 2024-05-15 at 4.34.12 PM.png

 

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Solution

Select the roof, right mouse click and choose the option to 'edit selected composite'.

This will show you the building materials you have used in that composite.

 

Or even better, select a roof plane and a wall and open the building material settings dialogue.

You can then arrange the list by building materials used (they will be highlighted) and you can compare the strengths of all of them.

The one used for the top surface of the roof need to be stronger than those used in the walls.

 

When you 'trim', the shape and position of the elements will form the overall trim and the stronger building materials will cut the weaker ones.

 

Barry.

 

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
Dell XPS- i7-6700 @ 3.4Ghz, 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 960 (2GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11

Hey @Barry Kelly, shouldn’t changing the crop zone to the underside of the roof fix this problem before changing material strengths ?

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Apple Mac Studio M1 Max Chip 10C CPU
24C GPU 7.8TF 32GB RAM OS Ventura

When you crop or trim, you can choose to keep the wall above or below the roof.

But I am pretty sure in either case the intersection between the wall and roof is still there and building material strengths come into play.

 

I think only Solid Element Operations will truly cut the wall at the top or bottom surface of the roof.

 

Barry.

One of the forum moderators.
Versions 6.5 to 27
Dell XPS- i7-6700 @ 3.4Ghz, 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 960 (2GB), Windows 10
Lenovo Thinkpad - i7-1270P 2.20 GHz, 32GB RAM, Nvidia T550, Windows 11
Solution
mthd
Ace

Hi @Zdenko to help us all understand how to do this operation with various methods and the resultant effects, please watch this excellent video tutorial. For the @Barry Kelly material strength method please watch the video to the end. Enjoy !

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7OZ_fU7eGA

AC8.1 - AC27 ARM AUS + CI Tools
Apple Mac Studio M1 Max Chip 10C CPU
24C GPU 7.8TF 32GB RAM OS Ventura

Great tutorial; I shared it with colleagues.

AC 26 - 5002 USA FULL
Win11 Pro 22H2 - 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900KF 3.00 GHz - 64 GB - 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

WOW! thanks everyone and will spend time today going through everything again!!!

Archicad 27 (3001 USA Full Intel Based MAC)
Sonoma 14.4.1