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Keynote Attribute assignment

DomenicI
Contributor

With CiTools Keynote you could assign Keynotes to various different attributes such as Composites, Building Materials etc.

I cannot seem to find this feature in the Keynote tool, am I missing something or it is planned in future release

 

Thanks

 

Domenic Iacovitti

Gartner Trovato Architects

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James B
Graphisoft
Graphisoft

Hi @DomenicI 

 

The solution inside Archicad 28 was built from the ground up and integrated into existing Archicad functions. The CI solution is a separate add-on, and has been around and updated for far longer.

Can you describe the workflow further what you'd like to see with the built in Archicad Keynotes solution?

 

Thanks.

James.

James Badcock
Graphisoft Senior Product Manager

Hi James,

Essentially it allows for Keynotes to be associated to a range of Attributes such as Composites, Building Materials, Fills etc... I have attached screen grabs as reference.

The concept wold be then to use Associated Labels to then easily note composites or details based on criteria. CI Tools Keynotes actually uses a Label Attributes command to quickly label the attributes - labels can be set to which ever format required.

 

Hope this explains the concept.


Keynote Attributes 01.jpgKeynote Attributes 02.jpgKeynote Attributes 03.jpgKeynote Attributes 04.jpgKeynote Attributes 05.jpg

Thanks @DomenicI  for the screen-shots and further details.

 

For a label, where the Keynote is derived from the associated element's attribute, what happens to the label and its content when the element's attributes change? Does the label's content go missing? Or it breaks somehow?

We want to support any number of Keynotes for elements, not just a 1:1 relationship, therefore we couldn't just replace the already labelled one with another. If there's multiple assigned, we wouldn't know which one you'd prefer to replace in the label with....

James Badcock
Graphisoft Senior Product Manager

Hi James,

The labels contents do not go missing. There is a Audit Labels tool and identifies changed labels and orphaned labels.

I find the tool very beneficial to Tagging wall types on out project - it has removed the need to ID wall types. 


Keynote Audit Labels.jpg
ML_Arco
Booster

I also found it surprising that the brand-new Keynote functionality in AC28 is an independent 2D annotation system, which doesn't link with any model element properties - seems old-fashioned and doesn't support keeping 3D model attributes and 2D data consistent. 

Mikko Lahti - Helsinki, Finland
BIM specialist
Archicad user since 2004
sh
Graphisoft Partner
Graphisoft Partner

Unfortunately, just because something has been newly developed does not mean that it can be worse than something that already exists.....
for your inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45hyDhpXZ-Y

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