!Restored: Drag and Drag-a-copy bug
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2006-07-27 06:50 AM
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2006-07-28 04:05 PM
Before placing your dragged item look at the cursor, if you want a a copy make sure it has a plus sign if you don't make sure it doesn't, then click.
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2006-07-30 12:56 PM
TomWaltz wrote:Glad to hear i am not the only one Laszlo. Tom, this sounds like this might be the cause. I have noticed it often happens when the drag is delayed, ie it is either processing a big group of items to drag or the processor is busy with other things. Maybe while it is "busy" it still thinks the button is being pressed?
it could be a Mac/PC thing, here's why:
On Apple, you use the Command Key (Apple key) to issue keyboard commands. Pressing control after a CMD-D will made Drag into Drag a Copy.
On a PC, you are pressing the CTRL key to ussie keyboard commands. I bet if you lag just a little bit, holding down control just an instant too long when pressing ctrl-D, Archicad reads that as another press of ctrl and thinks you want to copy....
Andrew, i see this definately as a bug. I dont know about you but when i drag i want to do it quickly, not hang around to see if the plus sign has appeared or not. In any case it should not do it.
I had some correspondence with graphiosft in version 9 regarding this problem. They were obviously keen to get rid of a problem that effects a very commonly used tool. Basically they could not reproduce it... I hope this can be fixed.
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2006-07-30 01:13 PM

Hunter.

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2006-07-30 06:01 PM
Hunter wrote:I did just that today.
Why hit cmd or ctrl D at all? Why not just drag with the cursor?![]()
Hunter.
It drags a copy even when I do it this way.
It looks as though when it starts to do this, no matter how I try to drag, it always does drag-a-copy.
Strange.
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2006-07-30 11:04 PM
TomWaltz wrote:really?!
Pressing control after a CMD-D will made Drag into Drag a Copy.


(i think you may be on the right track with the cause of the bug though . . .)
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2008-04-30 12:55 AM
Hunter wrote:The Pet Palette remembers the last command you used. That may or may not be Drag.
Why hit cmd or ctrl D at all? Why not just drag with the cursor?![]()

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2008-04-30 12:56 AM
Jill wrote:You can do that or Command-Shift D to get Drag a Copy directly.
For mine to work (drag a copy), I have to hold down D and the command key first, and then hit the option key (in that order only). A double plus sign appears, indicating it will drag a copy.
If you only hit Option, it should give you a single plus. Command-Option should be double-plus, for Drag Multiple Copies.

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2008-04-30 05:48 AM
TomWaltz wrote:The key is to not use the pet palette.Hunter wrote:The Pet Palette remembers the last command you used. That may or may not be Drag.
Why hit cmd or ctrl D at all? Why not just drag with the cursor?![]()
If you do NOT pre-select what you want to drag, but instead just hover your mouse over it until you see a snap cursor - mercedes, check, magnet, etc - THEN, mouse down (do not release) and drag all in one move - you will always drag. Press Ctrl key (Windows) or Opt key (Mac) then to get the + for a copy.
I've found that when I train, it is nearly impossible for some people to break the habit of pre-selecting what they want to drag. If you pre-select, then a mouse-down will of course bring up the pet palette as Tom describes.
(I also never encountered the accidental copy issue originally in this thread from 2 years ago. And in the 9 days, ctrl-D was my standard way of dragging.)
Cheers,
Karl
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2008-04-30 06:20 AM
That aside even working on a very simple drag like a single line it can still happen if i quickly pressing the needed shortcuts.
I now rely on constantly checking if a drag-a-copy was selected instead of drag. Its a constant annoyance.
BTW i don't like dragging by pointing instead of the shortcut as it can sometimes deselect instead, better to be sure everytime and use the shortcut which in the end should work anyway.