Good idea!
oreopoulos, now I really think that nobody will misunderstand you once again (at least I hope
).
Friendly
Fabrizio
oreopoulos, now I really think that nobody will misunderstand you once again (at least I hope
).Friendly
Fabrizio
Oreopoulos, I feel your pain. I really do. However, you should have realized (like me) by now, that agitating for improvement and sometimes pointing out shortcomings in general ( The Emperor is naked!!!) in certain company, is nothing short of banging your head against a brick wall. Particulalarly when as someone else mentioned before, everyone else seems blissfully content with status quo, (despite the frightening pace of improvements in other BIM solutions), and you seem to be the only one (and you are not , believe me, despite what they may want you to think) who thinks that what we have can be better. And also when the likes of KeesW and ThomasH stoop to what you rightly regarded as 'sad' and sadly 'personal' reponses to your arguments (unlike you, I don't see anything polite about "Please stop your wailing unless you have something NEW to add!", but maybe that's because I'm also 'wailing' myself so I wouldn't really know 
)
It's rather unfortunate that, much like the world around us, to point out shortcomings and sometimes what is just not right, is to invite wanton attack and the heavy hand of conformity slapping you into submission and to accept the panglossian bliss of status quo. I however think you should still keep talking, and keeping 'wailing' for as long as you are able to, Oreopoulos, otherwise ArchiCAD will indeed get stuck in neutral. One of the reasons I stopped posting is because I realized from the wishlists that a lot of the priority really was placed on productivity and effeciency refinements as opposed to new features (funny, .....I always thought that a simple feature such as the ability to rotate an object in 3D without the help of GDL in and of itself, was or would be a surefire productivity improvement particularly when you don't have to 'fake' the effect afterwards and spend even more time doing that. But what do I know, really?). All this, of course translates as; most people
So unless Graphisoft has changed their policy to allow only positive, flattering, rosy, exalting posts as criticisms of their products and services, I think you should still keep posting as much as you feel you need to be heard. I also commend the fact that you have not resorted to personal and pathetic responses of the kind of KeesW and ThomasH, and would urge you to keep refraining from them, and if anything just ignore them.
Another (fellow)'Wailer'
(hey Bob Marley would approve, no?
)
PS. If all else fails, learn GDL , that's the GS way after all. Have a flat tire? Learn GDL. Having a bad hair day? Learn GDL. Trouble with the Bills? Learn GDL ..... ok I'll stop now 
) It's rather unfortunate that, much like the world around us, to point out shortcomings and sometimes what is just not right, is to invite wanton attack and the heavy hand of conformity slapping you into submission and to accept the panglossian bliss of status quo. I however think you should still keep talking, and keeping 'wailing' for as long as you are able to, Oreopoulos, otherwise ArchiCAD will indeed get stuck in neutral. One of the reasons I stopped posting is because I realized from the wishlists that a lot of the priority really was placed on productivity and effeciency refinements as opposed to new features (funny, .....I always thought that a simple feature such as the ability to rotate an object in 3D without the help of GDL in and of itself, was or would be a surefire productivity improvement particularly when you don't have to 'fake' the effect afterwards and spend even more time doing that. But what do I know, really?). All this, of course translates as; most people
So unless Graphisoft has changed their policy to allow only positive, flattering, rosy, exalting posts as criticisms of their products and services, I think you should still keep posting as much as you feel you need to be heard. I also commend the fact that you have not resorted to personal and pathetic responses of the kind of KeesW and ThomasH, and would urge you to keep refraining from them, and if anything just ignore them.
Another (fellow)'Wailer'
(hey Bob Marley would approve, no?
)PS. If all else fails, learn GDL
, that's the GS way after all. Have a flat tire? Learn GDL. Having a bad hair day? Learn GDL. Trouble with the Bills? Learn GDL ..... ok I'll stop now
Djordje
Let me suggest smthg.
The current state of the wish list is a bit of a chaos.
A linear list of wishes repeating beacuse its difficult to check if its is present already.
As we all know organisation is a productivity tool (yes.. productivity is the most popular word of this topic
)
So here is my proposal
Organize the wish list creating Master topics.. and subtopics.
E.g
Master topis...
1) Build tools
2) Interaface changes
3) Export - import tools
..........
and refine as follows.
1a) Walls
1b) Slabs
1c) Roofs
1d) Windows & doors
Of course before creating a structure like that opinions from members and proposals must be made.
After the structure is agreed, we simply start wishing again.
But this time finding wishes is much easier and faster and not a long unordered list.
Waiting for your comment
Let me suggest smthg.
The current state of the wish list is a bit of a chaos.
A linear list of wishes repeating beacuse its difficult to check if its is present already.
As we all know organisation is a productivity tool (yes.. productivity is the most popular word of this topic
)So here is my proposal
Organize the wish list creating Master topics.. and subtopics.
E.g
Master topis...
1) Build tools
2) Interaface changes
3) Export - import tools
..........
and refine as follows.
1a) Walls
1b) Slabs
1c) Roofs
1d) Windows & doors
Of course before creating a structure like that opinions from members and proposals must be made.
After the structure is agreed, we simply start wishing again.
But this time finding wishes is much easier and faster and not a long unordered list.
Waiting for your comment
Sorry Djordje, I just forgot myself for a moment. I'll stay off the list until the discussion has settled back to the usual positive discussions and criticisms. In the meantime, I'll try to get at look at version 9.
everyone else seems blissfully content with status quoLet me assure you: we, in Graphisoft are NOT (and never will be). We can hear you loud and clear (even if you do not shout
) and will continue to do our best to improve the software and stay ahead of the competition. We can do this only with your help. So please, keep talking. As Djordje said: see you in the "Wish" section!
Bence Kovacs
VP, Product Management
Dwight wrote:Dwight
But in criticism, it is much more effective if one avoids sounding like a whiner.
So much of the criticism I've seen here is written from a place of anger, and in many cases, the complainer doesn't understand his software or his complaint is remedied by one extra step using lateral thinking.
But of course, that would be a dreaded "workaround." And we all hate those.
As the main whiner
let me say that i do understand that it is a step forward. I am whinning because it is just not big enough, maybe not fast enough and my main complain not balanced enough.
Thats enough with whinning.. lets get back to work
Still looking?
